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Nb And Ns Bisects On Pc And On Cover Help!

 
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Posted 01/04/2012   1:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add nitrolures to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've been battling myself wether or not I want these (well I want but) what am I willing to pay. Unitrade list the nova scotia bisect at $5k on cover - so this one is on pc but also with a margin pair of 3d's with it for proper postage rate to UK. The NB is fully on cover (unitrade $6k ) but has crease at fold and is also to UK but not sure if that is correct postage for time frame from NB through halifax to UK . Could really use some opinions on these please and thank you.

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Posted 01/04/2012   2:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nitro

In my opinion, I would want them expertised first if I was spending that kind of money. Particularly for the ones on piece because it is easier for forgers to reproduce on piece than on full cover. So I have been told anyway.

The provinces are popular so there is a good chance that they can get higher if these are on auction.

Chimo

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Posted 01/04/2012   8:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gportch to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Nitro
I would strongly advise you to have both items submitted to the Greene Foundation before making the purchase. You could even tell the vendor that a good certificate is a condition of the sale. The cost of expertizing is only $40 each. I think that would be money well spent!
GJP
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Posted 01/13/2012   02:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like them whether they are forged cancels / bisects or no.

The New Brunswick originating cancel of Saint John N.B. (ST.JOHN N.B.) is correct for the period as Saint John was the major shipping port in the Maritimes at the time. Halifax was just a military port and not much for shipping lumber (the main cargo) or people at the time.

Saint John, NB, (as apposed to St John's, Nfld), was also, in time, the terminus of the Intercolonial railway (after the Canadian Pacific Railway) from Upper Canada. The railway did not reach to Halifax until later.

Halidax was a port in use of course, because of it's deep harbour (matching New York), but Saint John was in the right place at the right time.

According to the Nova Scotia Stamp Club president there is a fellow who collects NS belonging to the club. I could perhaps send a note through the web to see if he might respond.

Or, you could contact NS stamps web site email. I think that worked before with one member here.

NS Stamps
http://www.frmfoundation.org/NovaScotia/index.php

NS Stamp Club
http://www.nsstampclub.ca/
Even contacting the club's email could produce results for you, or a mention to the appropriate member.
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Posted 01/13/2012   02:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are forgeries of NS and NB stamps and cancels and related materials.

See Ken Pugh's series on Forgeries of Canada and BNA stamps:
http://www.kenpugh.ca/PhilatelicSeriesII.aspx

Note, on another thread previously a member mentioned that ken was sick so he may not be available.

Perhaps a search for literature for sale online may help in this regard.
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Posted 02/04/2012   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Took the plunge and grabbed these after having the scans looked at by weiss and others. Although there can be no guarantee unless in hand all said there was nothing that was alarming or looked improper. Granted the NB is the front and part back of cover and the NS is on pc only but ya gotta love the margin pair from NS even though they are obliterated by a seemingly stressed out postmaster.

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Posted 02/04/2012   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice nitrolures....Hope they treat you good....
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Posted 02/04/2012   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Puzzler to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice.

Maybe the postmaster was concerned about people using pieces of stamps like pieces of eight and the bisect half was just the start of a trend.

In the Liverpool newspaper in 1856 was the first account of Oak Island and the Money Pit, fabled to be the pirate Captain Kidd's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oak_Island
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Edited by Puzzler - 02/04/2012 7:46 pm
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Posted 02/04/2012   9:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coriandre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Excellent catch Nitrolures. The New Brunswick one is my favorite. That postmaster was not only stressed. He hit those with a vengence. Maybe he was a postmaster from New Brunswick and got his owen picture stamp pulled. Charles Connell ?
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Posted 02/04/2012   11:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nitrolures to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Now a nice copy of Connell would really make my day. If it wasn't for the margin pair I would have passed on the nova scotia due to heavy cancel . Now to pick apart a few more NFLD and then put the provinces to reat for awhile.
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Posted 02/05/2012   12:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Coriandre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm a big fan of stamps from the provinces. Many fine and interesting stamps. Charles Connell is just a cool example. I just recently purchased Nova Scotia used numbers 2, 2b and 3 and this Newfoundland classic



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