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Stamp decoder... still avaliable?

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wd1040
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Posted 05/03/2009  02:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wd1040 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message

I'm usually on coincommunity, but once in a while I come here to the stamp experts

So... in recent times I've been looking at banknote security features, and this one takes UV/hidden printing to a whole new level.

It's called scrambled indicia, and here's a 100 kroon



Their decoder technology was also used recently (well... not really that recently) in the Bright Eyes stamp series as well as a few others (Houdini and Red Fox). The USPS also sold a decoder with them.

So... just wondering... does the post office have any more of the decoders? Or...... do any of our members here have one? I know I don't have 50 posts yet, but I'll get there soon! (And not by spamming. When I'm bored I check CC for new replies, and I'm ticked off by someone saying "Good find" on every post they can find to get 50.)

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Jayelem
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Posted 05/03/2009  02:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jayelem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I had a decoder until I gave it away to a friend in Cuba , you might be able to find one in stock at a Post Office if they haven't sent them back to the fulfillment center.

eBay also has them for sale occasionally

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rohumpy
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Posted 05/03/2009  05:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I think that Mystic has them for $9.95.

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wd1040
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Posted 05/03/2009  2:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Oh right, they still do at Mystic.

But do any of you know how to find the main main post office for the San Jose area where they might still have some? I think it's on Meridian or something...

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JayR101
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Posted 05/03/2009  4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JayR101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Nice find! Just kidding! They have codes on stamps? UV markings? Newbie so I find that interesting. Kinda "National Treasurish"
Thanks
Jay

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wd1040
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Posted 05/03/2009  4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Some of them do have UV ink, and some of them even have microprinting!

(Look at a Forever stamp. The right, erm... wood bell holding thing says "FOREVER")

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johnstamp
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Posted 05/03/2009  5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add johnstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

very interesting

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JayR101
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Posted 05/03/2009  7:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JayR101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thats awesome. My son will love this. He's 11 and loves those movies National Treasure; I'll get him going with that.

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WD,
To find the contact info for the San Jose PO, go to USPS.com and go to find a PO. I have a decoder myself, but no extras. I also enjoy the National Treasure films or any others that have puzzles to solve and maps to follow.

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wd1040
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Hey stamperdude,

I already got it from a member here. ( I don't know if that's illegal or not since I only have ~10 posts here!)

Anyways, thanks for the info. I need to restart the Nature of America panes that I have so far neglected...

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oldtriguy1960
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Hi All,

Here is some more regarding Hidden images and microprinting. Taken from a Yahoo Groups forum (us_specialized ). Its another good stamp site foir USA stamp collectors.

Dave N.
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http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/EOEASi...%20pages.pdf

Below is a list of the hidden images that you need the viewer for, then after that is a list of stamps with microprinting.
This is not really new, but may be new info for some new to this forum. I believe the credit goes to Jim Deboo.


+= UPDATED Jun 23, 2004 =+
Listing of US stamps with hidden images, micro-printing/indicia and luminescence/phosphorescence.
I've done my best to assemble from the Internet and several other sources, this list. If you find errors or additional stamps that need to be added, please email me at [edited out the e-mail address] net so I can update it. Thanx...

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These stamps include the feature of hidden images within the stamp itself. You'll need a $5.95 'Decoder' from the USPS to see them.

Scott 3036 - Red Fox - lower left corner of the design is a small trotting fox
Scott 3167 - US Air Force - repeated text USAF*USAF*USAF
Scott 3168 - Phantom of the Opera - two masquerade masks
Scott 3169 - Dracula - three flying bats
Scott 3170 - Frankenstein - 3 bolts of electricity
Scott 3171 - Mummy - two ancient Egyptian deities
Scott 3172 - Wolf Man - two howling wolves
Scott 3178 - Mars Pathfinder - repeated text USPS USPS USPS and MARS PATHFINDER JULY 4, 1997
Scott 3206 - Wisconsin Statehood - picture of a badger
Scott 3230 - Dog - bone and doghouse
Scott 3231 - Fish - eight bubbles coming out its mouth
Scott 3232 - Cat - paw print and mouse
Scott 3233 - Parakeet - birdcage
Scott 3234 - Hamster - exercise wheel
Scott 3238 - Space City - two spacecraft and figure
Scott 3239 - Space Ship Landing - small spacecraft
Scott 3240 - Person in Space Suit - small spacecraft
Scott 3241 - Space Ship Ascending - small spacecraft
Scott 3242 - Large Domed Structure - two spacecraft
Scott 3261 - Space Shuttle Landing, text - ENTERPRISE, COLOMBIA, CHALLENGER, ATLANTIS, ENDEAVOR, DISCOVERY
Scott 3262 - 747 Space Shuttle Piggyback, text - ENTERPRISE, COLOMBIA, CHALLENGER, ATLANTIS, ENDEAVOR, DISCOVERY
Scott 3321 - Skateboard - text - GNARLY
Scott 3322 - BMX Biking - text - RAD
Scott 3323 - Snowboarding - text - SWEET
Scott 3324 - InLine Skating - text - PHAT
Scott 3472 - Capitol Dome - text - PRIORITY MAIL
Scott 3473 - Washington Monument - text - EXPRESS MAIL
Scott 3647 - Jefferson Memorial - signature of Th. Jefferson
Scott 3647a - Jefferson Memorial - signature of Th. Jefferson
Scott 3648 - Capitol Dome at dusk - United States Flag
Scott 3651 - Houdini - four chains that envelop Harry are to be found between the corresponding pairs of colored dots
Scott 3771 - Special Olympics - Special Olympics logo
Scott 3787 - Old Cape Henry Lighthouse - text - 1792
Scott 3788 - Cape Lookout Lighthouse - text - 1859
Scott 3789 - Morris Island Lighthouse - text - 1876
Scott 3790 - Tybee Island Lighthouse - text - 1867
Scott 3791 - Hillsboro Inlet Lighthouse - text - 1907
Scott 3808 - Bronko Nagurski - football player design
Scott 3809 - Ernie Nevers - football player design
Scott 3810 - Walter Camp - football player design
Scott 3811 - Red Grange - football player design
Scott - WWI Memorial, small flag in upper left corner & just below the 37 USA inscription
Scott - US Air Force Academy - Falcon in flight
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These stamps include Microprinting/Indicia. You'll need at least a 10x magnifying glass to find them.

Scott 976 - Fort Bliss Centennial - A quick glance at the stamp reveals some of the images: a rocket, the fort, a Spanish mission and desert flora. A detailed examination uncovers the many items pictured in the triangular border surrounding the central part of the design. A camel is depicted on the left part of the triangle near the top. Other tiny images on this stamp illustrate different modes of transportation, including on foot, on horseback, by Conestoga wagon, by stagecoach, by car and by plane. Military vehicles also are shown.
Scott 2193 - Bernard Revel - the Star of David in the beard
Scott 2544 - Challenger Shuttle - "STS-7"
Scott 2647/96 - Wildflowers - denomination numerals are screened
Scott 2711/14 - Christmas Toys "copyright symbol 1992" and screened dots
Scott 2750/53 - Circus "1992"
Scott 2779/82- Nat'l Postal Museum "WASHINGTON DC 1993" (intaglio)
Scott 2807/11 - Winter Olympics "1994" & "WINTERSPORTS"
Scott 2840a-d - Norman Rockwell "1994"
Scott 2842 - Moon Landing "FIRSTMOONLANDING" (intaglio)
Scott 2854-61 - Blues and Jazz Singers "1994" and "BLUES" or "JAZZ" plus 4 digits; only "1994" on Bailey
Scott 2863-66 - Wonders of the Sea "1994"
Scott 2872 - Stocking (sheet or bklt) "1994" & "CHRISTMAS"
Scott 2950 - Florida Statehood "Florida" on the alligators back
Scott 2951-54 - Kids Care/Environment "EARTH DAY"
Scott 2966 - POW&MIA - "POW&MIA"
Scott 2967 - Marilyn Monroe "TM"
Scott 2968 - Texas Statehood "TEXAS" twice
Scott 2982 - Louis Armstrong "ARMSTRONG"
Scott 2999 - Republic of Palau "PALAU"
Scott 3001 - U.S. Naval Academy "ANNAPOLIS"
Scott 3012 - Midnight Angel "HOLIDAY"
Scott 3018 - Midnight Angel (coil) "HOLIDAY"
Scott 3054 - Yellow Rose (coil) "USPS 1997"
Scott 3059 - Smithsonian Institution "USPS"
Scott 3081 - Breast Cancer Awareness "AWARENESS"
Scott 3082 - Lames Dean "TM"
Scott 3088 - Iowa Statehood "IOWA"
Scott 3089 - Iowa Statehood (self adhesive) "IOWA"
Scott 3121 - Benjamin O. Davis "USPS"
Scott 3123/24 - Swans Love "LOVE" on each swans wing
Scott 3134 - Thornton Wilder "OUR TOWN"
Scott 3135 - Raoul Wallenberg "PASSPORT TO FREEDOM"
Scott 3147 - Vince Lombardi (red bar) "GREEN BAY"
Scott 3148 - Bear Bryant (red bar) "ALABAMA"
Scott 3149 - Pop Warner (red bar) "YOUTH LEAGUE"
Scott 3150 - George Halas (red bar) "CHICAGO"
Scott 3152 - Humphry Bogart "TM"
Scott 3166 - Padre F. Varela "USPS" throughout the design
Scott 3173 - Supersonic Flight "X-1" and "USPS" three times and "GLAMOROUS GLENNA"
Scott 3174 - Women in Military Service "ARMY", "USMC", "NAVY", "USAF", "USCG"
Scott 3176 - Madonna and Child "CHRISTMAS 1997"
Scott 3177 - American Holly "HOLIDAY GREETINGS", "USPS" and possibly "1997"
Scott 3180 - Alpine Skiing "USPS"
Scott 3181 - Madam C.J. Walker "USPS"
Scott 3193/97 - Flowering Trees "USPS"
Scott 3211 - Berlin Airlift "USPS"
Scott 3220 - Spanish Settlement "USPS", "1598"
Scott 3221 - Stephen Vincent Benet "JOHN BROWN'S BODY"
Scott 3222/25 - Tropical Birds "USPS"
Scott 3235 - Klondike Gold Rush "STAMPEDERS", "GOLD"
Scott 3237 - American Ballet "1998"
Scott 3244 - Madonnas and Child "USPS 1998"
Scott 3261 - Space Shuttle Landing "Enterprise", "Colombia", "Challenger", "Atlantis", "Endeavour", "Discovery", "USPS". Minor misspelling with 'Endeavor' instead of the original 'Endeavour'.
Scott 3262 - 747 Space Shuttle Piggyback "Enterprise", "Colombia", "Challenger", "Atlantis", "Endeavour", "Discovery", "USPS". Minor misspelling with 'Endeavor' instead of the original 'Endeavour'.
Scott 3273 - Malcolm X "USPS"
Scott 3274/75 - Victorian Love "LOVE"
Scott 3276 - Hospice Care "USPS"
Scott 3286 - Irish Immigration "IRELAND"
Scott 3287 - Alfred Lunt & Lynn Fontanne "ACTORS"
Scott 3308 - Ayn Rand "NOVELIST"
Scott 3309 - Cinco De Mayo "USPS"
Scott 3314 - John & William Bartram "BOTANISTS" in the top petal of the flower
Scott 3316 - California Gold Rush "GOLD RUSH"
Scott 3332 - Universal Postal Union "UPU"
Scott 3338 - Frederick Law Olmsted "CENTRAL PARK"
Scott 3353 - Uncle Sam "USA1999" 10 times in line
Scott 3354 - NATO "UNITY"
Scott 3355 - Madonna & Child "USPS"
Scott 3369 - Year 2000 "USPS"
Scott 3370 - Year of the Dragon "DRAGON"
Scott 3371 - Patricia Roberts Harris "USPS"
Scott 3372 - LA Class Submarine "USPS" on lower part of conning tower (pane of 20 only, not prestige booklet of 5)
Scott 3389 - American Samoa "SAMOA"
Scott 3391/92 - Wylie E. Coyote & Road Runner "USPS"
Scott 3397 - Summer Sports "USPS"
Scott 3398 - Adoption "USPS"
Scott 3411 - Escaping the Gravity of Earth "USPS" on both hologram overlays
Scott 3413 - Landing on the Moon "USPS" on hologram overlay
Scott 3444 - Thomas Wolfe "AUTHOR"
Scott 3445 - White House "2000"
Scott 3448 - Flag over Farm "USPS"
Scott 3449 - Flag over Farm (self adhesive) "USPS"
Scott 3467 - Bison "USPS"
Scott 3468a - Washington "USPS"
Scott 3469 - Flag over Farm "USPS"
Scott 3470 - Flag over Farm (self adhesive) "USPS"
Scott 3482/83 - Washington "USPS"
Scott 3484/84a - Bison (self adhesive, pane & vending and bklt) "USPS"
Scott 3491/92 - Apple and Orange (pane) "USPS"
Scott 3493/94 - Apple and Orange (vending bklt) "USPS"
Scott 3496/99 - Rose and Love Letter "USPS"
Scott 3500 - Year of the Snake "USPS"
Scott 3501 - Roy Wilkins "USPS"
Scott 3503 - Diabetes Awareness "USPS"
Scott 3507 - Peanuts(Snoopy) "USPS"
Scott 3508 - Honoring Veterans "USA"
Scott 3509 - Frida Kahlo "USPS"
Scott 3521 - Leonard Bernstein "USPS"
Scott 3523 - Lucille Ball "USPS"
Scott 3533 - Enrico Fermi "USPS"
Scott 3546 - We Give Thanks "USPS"
Scott 3551 - Love letter "USPS"
Scott 3557 - Langston Hughes "USPS"
Scott 3559 - Year of the Horse "USPS"
Scott 3616 - Washington (water activated) "USPS"
Scott 3618/19 - Washington (self adhesive) "USPS"
Scott 3620 - Flag (water activated) "USA"
Scott 3621 - Flag (self adhesive, pane of 20) "USA"
Scott 3623 - Flag (self adhesive, conv bklt of 20) "USPS"
Scott 3630 - Flag (self adhesive, pane of 20) "USA"
Scott 3635 - Flag (self adhesive, conv bklt of 20) "USPS"
Scott 3675 - Madonna and Child "USPS"
Scott 3747 - Year of the Ram "USPS"
Scott 3766 - Wisdom "USPS"
Scott 3773 - Ohio Statehood "USPS"
Scott 3774 - Pelican Island Nat'l Wildlife Refuge "USPS"
Scott 3781 - Cesar Chavez "USPS"
Scott 3784 - Purple Heart "USA"
Scott 3784a - Purple Heart "USPS"
Scott 3803 - Korean War Vets Memorial "USPS"
Coming - United We Stand "USPS"
Coming - Rose and Love Letter "USPS

Scott C135 - Grand Canyon "USPS"
Scott C136 - Nine Mile Prarie "USPS"
Scott C138 - Acadia Nat'l Park "USPS"
Scott C138a - Acadia Nat'l Park "USPS"

Scott O146a - Great Seal Official "USA1993" 10 times in line
Scott O151 - Great Seal Official "USA1993" 10 times in line
Scott O153 - Great Seat Official "USA1995" 10 times in line
Scott O154 - Great Seat Official "USA1995" 10 times in line
Scott O155 - Great Seat Official "USA1995" 10 times in line
Scott O156 - Great Seat Official "USA1995" 10 times in line
Scott O157 - Great Seal Official "USA1999" 10 times in line
Scott O158 - Great Seal Official (coil) "USA2001" 10 times in line

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These stamps have some form of luminescence or phosphorescence. You'll need a black light to brighten them.

Scott 3325/28 - American Glass
Scott 3332 - Universal Postal Union
Scott 3351a-t - Insects and Spiders



Edited by oldtriguy1960 - 05/05/2009 9:09 pm
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wd1040
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Posted 05/06/2009  02:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks for the list! I never knew there were so many microprinted stamps, too! Also, is the USPS still producing stamps with indicia?

Anyways, once I get the decoder I'll be going through all my notes and making a list of the ones that have the scrambled indicia. If not one of them has it, then... well, that tells me I have to go out and get more!

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djd
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Posted 05/06/2009  08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add djd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

To all
I was under the impression that short responses like
"Nice find", Nice stamp(s)" "interesting" were not appropriate
or recognized in the counter process.
David

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Hi David, thinking of you..of course we had dinner at Monkey Joes ! I have to admit I am guilty myself of the short posts..nice stamp ! etc; but will try to keep it under control!


APS 070059 Life Member International Society of Guatemala Collectors I.S.G.C. #853
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Jayelem
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Posted 05/06/2009  3:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jayelem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Quote:
To all
I was under the impression that short responses like
"Nice find", Nice stamp(s)" "interesting" were not appropriate
or recognized in the counter process.
David


I thought I read that somewhere in the forum rules too , I'm surprised that this hasn't been brought up more often, but then again after your first 50 posts or other post requirements made up for contests is it stil that important to the moderators.

BTW I prefer quality posts.

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wd1040
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Posted 05/06/2009  5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wd1040 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

oh ... erm... I uh... thought I could overstep the rules because I have ~1700 posts on coincommunity. Sorry all and I apoligize for not following the rules! Anyways, I'll be lurking to help people on PRC stamps and modern Chinese issues.

Also, djd, how did you know what my name was?

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