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Posted 06/27/2009   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add 1775mac to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
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Posted 06/27/2009   6:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We just got a NEW post office -- took several years of planning and waiting, then a few extra months for construction and moving delays, but it's open now -- all bright and shiny with three helpful, smiling clerks and one old crab
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Posted 06/27/2009   7:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nr-notrare to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Mac......


Here in Liberty, Nebraska the Post Office is inside the bank.......a cubicle about 6' X 10"......serves a whopping 83 residents. Next nearest PO is about 22 miles away in Wymore. They closed the Barnston PO (three miles away) almost 18 years ago and it served 122 people. Keeping Liberty open costs less than delivering from Wymore.
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Posted 06/29/2009   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a little more on the subject.

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.co...38>1=33009
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Posted 07/29/2009   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Canada, we went through this back in the mid-to-late 80s. Canada Post thought they were being especially sneaky in the way they were doing it, but it was so obvious, it was almost funny.

I was on the front lines during this era, the shop steward for my Local in the Canadian Union of Postal Workers, and we were pretty much battling for our jobs then.

What they would do is first establish a sub-Post Office in a store, usually a grocery store or a drugstore. The store owner would get some kind of a financial incentive for signing on, and would staff it outlet with his own help, usually making minimum wage. They would then transfer the "call for" items there -- usually parcels and registered mail, just to get the public used to the idea of patronizing this new place to get their mail from. Naturally, these places usually had extended hours that the Post Office didn't have which was considered to be a plus to the public.

Then the idea would be to use "dropped mail volumes" as a justification to kill jobs at the Post Office. The long range plan was to close the office altogether and use the building as merely a letter carrier depot, without any public service on the counter.

All plans aside, things didn't go so well in our town for Canada Post.

The only guy that would sign on owned a building with two businesses that he also owned. On one side was a laundromat, and on the other side was a store where he sold fishing bait. You could go for your Registered letter and pick up a dozen leeches or minnows if you wanted, at the same time. From what I heard, it was a very unpleasant experience because of the smell of his stock, though, which was even worse on a hot summer day, because he had no air-conditioning. On top of that, people complained to us that their mail would pick up this rather distinctive smell if it was left there more than a day or two. It woudl be lots of fun when the Missus' fur coat was shipped back to her from storage in the late summer, I was told by one guy, who resolved to get the furrier to ship it back by bus when the time came.

We tried to get the guy to get out of the Post Office business, but to no avail. It was bad enough that he refused, but when he called us all names in the local media, it became war. If he didn't want to get out of the Postal business on his own, we resolved we would make him get out of the Postal business.

We suspected that the staff (primarily 16 year-olds) wasn't very well trained, so we decided to see how much training they actually did have. We sent five people in one week to buy UK money orders, and insructed them to ask for money orders in "English Dollars, and to make sure you use that funny dollar sign they use over there." The limit for a money order in UK funds was L200, and every time they cost us only $200! Talk about doubling your money!

Apparently, the guy wasn't all that happy when the Postal Auditors came in at month end and found out that he was some $3000 in the hole on his Money Order funds.

We requested again that he get out of the Post Office business, but he decided to dig in his heels even deeper.

Our next operation was to get a box, plastic line it, and deposit inside a rather huge quantity of dog droppings and fish guts. This was addressed to someone we knew was on holiday for the whole summer. Of course, the package was undeliverable, a card was left in their mail that was on hold, and it parcel was dispatched to the sub-office, where regulations stated it had to be held for two weeks.

For the most of those two weeks, we were in the throes of a summer heatwave. If the place stank before this, it was minor, but apparently when those two weeks were drawing to a close, a person couldn't stand in the place with anything less than a gas mask. Where the smell was coming from, they finally found out, and attempted to contain it by putting the offending parcel inside a rather large plastic bag, but the smell lingered. At the end of the two weeks, without anyone calling for the parcel, regulations stated that it had to be returned to sender, but for some reason, there was no return address on the item, so off it went to the Dead Letter Office in Ottawa.

That wasn't the end, though. The smell persistently lingered and eventually made it's way to the laundromat.

Within a month, the guy got out of the Post Office business.

That town still doesn't have a sub-office; the regular Post Office still sells stamps and money orders over its front counter, and is still fully staffed.

Other places weren't quite so lucky though, and here in the City, there are some eight or so Post Offices that have been turned into Letter Carrier Depots, their counters closed off from the public, who has to do their postal business at a 7-Eleven, which is staffed by people who don't really have a clue what they are doing and will try to slap a meter tape on any item you bring in to them to weigh. My way of dealing with them is to let them print out their little tapes and then tell them that I want stamps, TYVM.

It's fun to see their glowering looks in response.
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Posted 07/29/2009   2:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We have a post office in the 7-Eleven, down the block from me. Wonderful people, wonderful service, and they all know I am a stamp collector and are pleased to help me out.

It's better service than the "real" Canada Post Office at Sparks St. & Elgin St., downtown. They are not open weekends and after 5:00 p.m. What's the use?

David
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Posted 07/29/2009   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If that's the case, David, you're lucky. The chick who runs the sub-office (and her minions) in my neighbourhood (located in an Rexall drugstore) doesn't have a clue. She doesn't push stamps, preferring instead to use tape everytime, and looks at me like I'm imposing whenever I ask for stamps. She refuses to break booklets (for example, she refused to sell me only the four stamps in the recent "Recording Artists" set, insisting instead that I had to buy the book of eight, and no, she didn't stock any singles, either), and just generally doesn't understand anything about stamp collecting.

One would think that Canada Post would better train these people, but they refuse to. One would think that they would "force issue" minimum quantities of new stamps, but it appears that she can order just what she wants to. Half the new issues don't even show up there.

The Post Office used to be open half a day on Saturdays, and I can even remember when they used to deliver mail on Saturdays as well, but since Canada Post became a "clown corporation" they care less about service and more about profits, it seems.

Now, don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a profit, but a Post Office should be trying, like any other government department, to break even if anything. Profits should be seen as a nice bonus, if/when they occur. Problem was, Canada Post saw cutting services as a way to break even, and once the cuts started, they continued pretty much unabated.

All the while the President of the corporation was making an obscene wage, too, I might add.

The other thing is that Canada Post never listened to it's employees. I suggested back about 1990 or so that every Post Office in Canada should have a coin-operated internet terminal for people to receive their e-mail at, and I was told in response that "The phone company is our competition -- why should we patronize them?" Another suggestion I had was that they could declare an official stamp day and issue a stamp for it every year, along the lines of what they do in some European countries. Their reply was that the whole month of October was "Stamp Collecting Month" already. Fine, but this was only declared so that Canada Post could peddle it's overly commercial wares to kids tied in with the "Tommy Tricker" movie that came out around that time, and that their merchandise had less to do with stamp collecting than it did of moving junk at a profit. Their concept of an album that had to be constantly updated with every issue was laughable, and when I told them that they really didn't know much about stamp collecting, they begged to differ.

The proof of the pudding was in the crust, it appeared.
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Posted 08/28/2009   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With the old Chicago post office building being sold the other day for $40 million that should be a good shot in the arm for the USPS budget problems. According to an news article it cost $2 million a year for upkeep on the 9 story building that was featured in the movie "Dark Knight" the latest Batman film that had filming locations all over Chicago. The building had been vacant since 1997 when the PO moved across the street.
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Posted 08/28/2009   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add David Giles to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Glenn:

You Rexall clerk is properly trained. The store gets 5% commission on stamp sales and 10% commission on meters. That's why they push them.

I agree with the stamp day issue, like the Europeans... they could make it a LETTER WRITING DAY like the Japanese.

I sent a letter to Bob Rae last week, as he's the Liberal Foriegn Affairs Critic. I sent it to his constituentcy office on Bloor St., in T.O. I addressed the letter "The Hon. Bob Rae, M.P.". The $#@!% at the post office sent it back to me with a note to add 54˘ postage.

Being a long-time Tory, I have since forwarded the envelope to my M.P. (John Baird) to find out why the stupid $#@%! at Canada Post cannot do their job.

I'll let you know what happens!

David
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Posted 08/31/2009   11:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Really? Do they own the meters now or are they still paying rental fees to Pitney Bowes (or whoever) for them?
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Posted 08/31/2009   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
and one old crab


Ever new post office comes with one of these as part of the standard outfit!
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Posted 09/01/2009   2:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I once sold Pitney Bowes machines. The actual meter that you took to the PO to be 'refilled' were leased, not ever sold. But that was years ago and things may have changed.

Mike
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Posted 09/01/2009   3:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, that's what I thought.

One would think that by now Canada Post would have invented their own postage meters, and thus, enhance their profit situation. Just more short-sightedness by management again, I guess.

So, they might make a bigger profit by pushing meter tapes, but if they have to rent their meter, they're losing money, and lessening their profits there.

Mind you, 10% commission is nice, nevertheless. However, if they just kept their own monopoly on the system, they might even afford to keep some offices open later, at that rate, if they re-invested just 10% of meter receipts in doing this.

But then, Canada Post always like to put the cart before the horse...idiots.
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Posted 02/23/2010   4:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bujutsu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Hi All

Who says history does not repeat itself??

As a collector of the areas of Muskoka / Parry Sound districts, approximately 130 miles north (220 KM) of Toronto, I have examples of post offices that used to exist barely a mile apart!

It was plain to see that some downsizing had to begin. In the Muskoka region alone, there were about 225 different post offices in existance. Now there are only about two dozen of them in the area. However, the three major towns all now have RPO outlets (Retail Postal Outlets) again, barely a mile apart from their main post office counterparts <G>

Again I say, who says history does not repeat itself??

Cheers

Bujutsu

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Posted 02/23/2010   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Larry,

I received a batch of cinderellas today and one was about Muskoka.
I will scan it tomorrow.
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Posted 02/23/2010   7:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, Muskoka.

What the average Torontonian thinks about when someone says "Northern Ontario"...
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