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Posted 01/14/2009   5:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When it comes to ebay..I am the One bid wonder.
I place my bid, if I win, I win
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A Philatelic mind
is a terrible thing to waste
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Posted 01/14/2009   6:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It didnt used to be that way...if I want a 99 cent cover I have to add 1.50 for shipping and handling ..now a 99 cent cover is 2.49..sorry I dont need it that bad..and there are guys with deep pockets who do not care anything about realistic value if they want something..eBay started out as a buyers market and ended up a sellers market ....


Your 99 cent cover with 1.50 shipping costs the seller .15 in listing fees, .08 in final value fees, .37 in PayPal Fees, and .42 for postage. That's already $1.02 for a 99 cent cover and doesn't even include the cost of the cover to the seller. Then there is the envelope, and about 1/3 to 1/2 of a manila folder to mail it in depending on cover size. Then there is the time to scan, upload, create listings, address, package, ship, go to the post office, answer emails. Heck, for 99 cents without the $1.50 for fees and expenses the seller would be farther ahead and save a whole lot of time by simply using some Ronsonol and burning the damn things! That's why I often soak stamps from covers. Especially if they are useful to me. It's a lot easier and less expensive.
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Modern-Vue Stamps on eBay
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Posted 01/14/2009   8:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I lost a nice set of U.S. that I would have liked to have today. A new guy/gal (0 feedback) overbid by about 20%. It's not worth it.

There's always another lot somewhere!
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Posted 01/14/2009   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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A new guy/gal (0 feedback) overbid by about 20%


I tend to stay away from any auction, when I get an outbid notice, and I see that the new bidder has a 0 feedback...

Its either a newbee, that knows very little about stamp value, or a shill.
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A Philatelic mind
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Posted 01/14/2009   9:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add laswabbie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's exactly what I did Bob'o.
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Posted 01/14/2009   10:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wasn't saying you were wrong in your opinion London. I just mean it wasn't worth my time to review listings. I will admit I am not an auction guy. With way too many years in farming I find every auction results in mostly over paying for most items. Just give me a price and be done with it.

This is how I treat stamps. I seldom ever buy anywhere near cat price for most stamps. In fact most of my MNH is around 60% to 70% of the cat price. Now there has been the exception when I just wanted something.

I do accept that there are people that like to bid in an auction. I have an auction barn near the farm. I sold some things there once, but found that the 30% commission was rate more than I was willing to part with. So needless to say I'm a buy it now person when the product and value matches.

I have yet to find anyone that is cash strapped. I guess there may be a few out there but at least where I live I just haven't seen it. Though I have seen more people hold back spending in fear.

You see where I live things are the same as they were 10, 20 even 30 years ago. We experience no great growth thus we experience no great down times. It may be luck also because the job market remains steady though the cost of gasoline did slow things down for a few months last year.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Posted 01/15/2009   6:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been watching one item for the past week and it generally stayed put. I was going to place a bid as I already had done my homework on the lot for what I needed and what I could recoup on the other part. Then just before closing today no less than 17 bids in a couple of dollars at a time did this guy walk the bid up until he finally got just over the other guy. Why do it? If you are going to go up anyways just put what you are willing to pay. Anyways watched as he finally got stomped by $150 over his bid. Never had a chance to place mine though as I had figured about $25 under the final bid.
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Posted 01/15/2009   9:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cgrotha to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
E-bay can be a real tough nut, primarily due to the snipers. I have pretty much steered away to other sites/houses. One y'all might find interesting if you havn't been there is philatino.com. I have gotten very good deals on classic area lots but there are drawbacks. The material is coming out of equatorial countries so condition can be problem and you can't be in a hurry because while the vendors I have dealt with thus far have been very fair it takes some time to get delivery. I am not completely sure how the system works but somehow the lots get from South Amerfica and are reshipped from Miami. Some last minute bidding happens there but there are some controls and it is nothing like E-bay.
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Posted 01/15/2009   9:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add the_stampaholic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bought some old GB's on ebay with a dealer in Miami. sent payment. didn't get the lots for weeks. finally got out of them that payment went to Brazil and lots came from Brazil. Need I say I didn't do that anymore? They were good buys though.
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Israel
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Posted 01/16/2009   3:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Londonbus1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Just last night I was edged out by under a buck for a lovely Egyptian UPU set that was in among a bunch of other Egyptian issues.

There's always next time.


I have the 1934 UPU stamps to 200m used and 15m Mint.
Also many other Egypt if interested.

Jan-Simon was asking for Egypt too....better get to work !

Londonbus1......Left his mind in London
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Posted 01/19/2009   2:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great ebay just cancelled my old search page. No longer do you have a choice on using the old ebay as of Jan. 20th. All of the site goes to the new version regardless. Just a perfect business model to show a company how to fail.

Ebay %$#@
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Canada
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Posted 01/22/2009   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ebay is notorious for having sellers that gouge on the shipping and handling. It seems odd to pay any more than a buck for something that can easily be slipped into an envelope, or a surchage for an additional item from the same seller that can be put into the same envelope. I can understand paying a little more if it is warranted (padded envelope, or you want it to be registered), but a lot of the shipping charges there seem to be outright piracy.
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Forum Dad
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Posted 01/22/2009   10:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The problem with eBay buyers is they don't think eBay sellers are a business. People that have no qualms at all paying Columbia House $6.95 to ship a CD that goes Media Mail and costs 96 squawk about $2 to ship a coin.

I used to help another eBay seller list albums and other music memorabilia. He's a platinum power seller that ships hundreds of items a day. He has a full time employee that does nothing but ship stuff 6 days a week, 8 hours a day. People leave him negatives because he charges $5 to ship an album.

Yes there are sellers that gouge, but there are far more buyers that are ridiculous in what they think is gouging.
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Posted 01/22/2009   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add WpgLwr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you are saying, but it would seem to me that "a platinum power seller that ships hundreds of items a day [with] a full time employee that does nothing but ship stuff 6 days a week, 8 hours a day", could likely negotiate a cheaper rate with the Post Office, just like any other business does.

The unfortunate thing is, that while some of them do, they don't pass the savings on to the customer.
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Posted 01/22/2009   11:23 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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could likely negotiate a cheaper rate with the Post Office, just like any other business does.


He shipped bulk rate, but still had to pay someone $500 a week plus benefits to ship the product. To leave a seller a neg over $5 shipping and handling for an almost 1 pound package that requires custom packaging is completely absurd.

Quite frankly, costs on shipping and handling are none of the buyer's business. In the business world, it's a product just like a widget. If you don't believe that, ask the IRS. If the seller states a clear shipping and handling price and the buyer agrees to it there should be no squawking about it later.

Now if there are games played like changing it after the fact, that's a completely different animal.
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