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Posted 05/10/2012   8:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Andy1847 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here are a few covers I picked up last month, thought I'd share with the forum:

#1 red brown shade tied by red grid cancel, cover with a nice fancy Buffalo NY town postmark.





#1d brown orange shade, worn impression, small mourning cover, red Albany NY town postmark, black grid on stamp.





#2 black tied by red grid cancel, cover with Washington DC town-mark addressed to Salem Mass.



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Posted 05/10/2012   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That is amazing! Gorgeous covers- especially the #2!
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Posted 05/10/2012   10:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just curious about the #2 cover? Is that the way the state of Massachusetts was spelt back then or didn't the sender use spell check?

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (The exact & entire wording of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
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Posted 05/10/2012   10:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andy1847 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In one of my earlier posts someone pointed out that script "f" looking letter after "Ma" is how double "ss" was written back then. Strange huh?
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Posted 05/11/2012   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jhlovell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Saltonstall family has always been a prestigious political family here in Massachusetts, that's a great cover (both actuallY). Now that you have ruined my day. I am going to be depressed all day knowing you have those and I don't. (Great catch!)
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Posted 05/11/2012   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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that script "f" looking letter after "Ma" is how double "ss" was written back then.


Here's the explanation:

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Posted 05/11/2012   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andy1847 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you wt1 ! it was you who replied to one of my earlier posts with the explanation.
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Posted 05/11/2012   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As it relates to the Leverett Saltonstall (for Mrs. Tuckerman) cover, note this family connection:


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Leverett Saltonstall (1783-1845) was the son of Dr. Nathaniel Saltonstall (1746-1815) and Anna White (1752- 1841). Graduating from Harvard College in 1802, he practiced law in Salem, Mass. from 1805 until about 1835. He served as a Massachusetts state senator and representative intermittently between 1813-1834, and again in 1844; and served as president of the Massachusetts Senate from 1831 to 1832. The first mayor of Salem, Mass. in 1836-1837, Saltonstall was elected to the U. S. House of Representatives as a Whig, serving from Dec. 1838 to March 1843 (25th-27th Congresses). He was also an overseer of Harvard University from 1835 to 1845. Saltonstall married Mary Elizabeth Sanders (1788-1858), the daughter of Thomas Sanders and Elizabeth Elkins Sanders of Salem. Their children were Anne Elizabeth Saltonstall (1812-1881), Caroline Saltonstall (1815-1883), Lucy Saltonstall [Tuckerman] (1822-1890), and Leverett Saltonstall (1825-1895).
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Posted 05/11/2012   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andy1847 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info I did not google the name yet, I'll use the info when I create my page for display in my collection. I really like the cover, I get so hung up on shades of the #1 I pass up on a lot #2 items.
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Posted 05/11/2012   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add artlaunier to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1,

I read the document you provided, thanks btw, and understand where the "long s" or "f" was to be used in the middle of the word. However, unless I misread the document I didn't see where it was a substitute for a double s. Wouldn't it been more accurate to use "ff"?

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A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. (The exact & entire wording of the 2nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution)
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Posted 05/11/2012   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampvirgin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would be happy to have the expendable income to buy covers such as those.
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Posted 05/11/2012   2:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the example shown above, it looks to me that the writer used the "f" and "s" rather than "ff". If the above article is to be believed, it could be that the writer chose to use the long "s" ("f") and short "s" together. (That's only my opinion, as I'm no professional on the subject.)

I also suspect that this maybe when the use of that script was evolving to the short "s" only and I do recall that some people, especially those back in the day when fountain pens were the norm, found it an easier "flow" to cursively write the "f" rather than the "s" in the middle of a word, so that could have something to do with it, too.
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Posted 05/11/2012   2:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's some more on the subject as it relates to its use in the US:


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in the United States, acts of Congress were published with the long s throughout 1803, switching to the short s in 1804.

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Posted 05/11/2012   2:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bobgggg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great covers Andy
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Posted 05/11/2012   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Andy1847 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Art, looks like I was mistaken about the "f" for "ss", but wt2 provided the reply I was looking for about the subject. The writing style back then is really interesting. I heard that public schools are no longer going to teach cursive witting, I wonder if this is really true, being we're in this computer age everyone types e-mails, text messaging each other there is no need to write in script anymore. Kind of sad to see the art of cursive writing disappear.
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Posted 05/11/2012   6:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Andy, that #2 cover is stunning ! The whole group just made me drool on my keyboard......
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