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Posted 01/26/2013   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add zorrobond to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This appears to be the earliest postcard from my recently inherited collection. Also, is this the right forum for this since it doesn't technically have a picture on the postcard?





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Posted 01/26/2013   8:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The way to eliminate confusion -- if it has a government imprinted stamp, it is a postal card (a few postal cards have pictures, so that's not a valid test). If it has no imprinted stamp, it's a postcard. Notice your example says "postal card" right at top center. It is also "legal" to describe used postal cards as "covers," mint, I'm not so sure. Opinions?
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Posted 01/26/2013   9:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a postal card (or stamped card, as the USPS has now done away with the term "postal card"), the item is considered postal stationery and as such it probably belongs in the category of US Back of Book (as postal stationery typically includes cut squares, embossed envelopes [now stamped envelopes] and postal cards [now stamped cards]).
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Posted 01/27/2013   10:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hayden,

Welcome to SCF!

Several definitions from the United States Stamp Society's A Glossary of Terms for the Collector of United States Stamps at http://glossary.usstamps.org/ :


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*Cover(s) - 1.) any intact envelope, postal card, wrapper or similar mailed item. 2.) the printed pieces of cardboard used for the front and back of traditional booklets. The Scott numbers identifying such booklet covers are prefixed with BC.

Denominated Postal Cards - postal cards printed by vending machines in selected locations during the early 1990s. Scott CVUX.

Indicium - 1) the stamp-like impression on postal stationery, 2) the imprint of postage made by a postage meter.

*Postal Card - a mailing card produced by the post office, as opposed to a privately produced post card. A postal card has a stamp-like indicium. Postal Cards were first issued in 1873. Since 1999 Postal Cards have been sold for 1 over face value. Scott numbers are prefixed with UX. See also Denominated Postal Cards and Stamped Card.

*Postal Stationery - a category of products which includes Postal Envelopes, Postal Cards, aerograms, wrappers, and international reply coupons.

*Stamped Card - the current USPS term for what was formerly known as a postal card.


Based upon the above, I would say that the correct location for this post would have been under the Covers section; HOWEVER, this spot is close enough!

Your card is either Scott UX1 or UX3 (both issued in 1873) with the difference being in the size of the watermark (90x60mm and 53x36mm, respectively).

Steve
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Posted 02/26/2013   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please pardon my ignorance on this topic, but how does one find the watermark on a postal card/Postal stationary? I wasn't even aware that they contained such a feature?
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Posted 02/26/2013   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1847bill to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most of the time you can hold the card up to light source and see them. I've also used watermark fluid on them. They really pop out then.
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Posted 02/26/2013   7:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add doug2222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On UX-1 and UX-3, hold the card up to a very strong light; take your ruler with you so you can measure the watermark, provided you can see it. Postal card #UX-1, which is worth substantially more than the more common #UX-3, has a watermark almost twice the size of #UX-3. It doesn't cover the entire card, but it comes close.
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Posted 02/27/2013   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you! I learn something new every day here!
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Posted 04/06/2013   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hey I found a watermark on a stamped envelope/postal stationery US25 but the you and S are merged together to resemble a Dollar sign $ and the 2 & 5 are catty-corner and small inside them. Anything particular?
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 04/06/2013 08:37 am
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Posted 04/29/2013   06:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it is actually! I think it's the one on the right. wmk. #27

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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 04/29/2013 06:22 am
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