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Posted 07/13/2013   6:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Zuzu to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
it could be an inverted "2" imprinted over a "9"


Ooh, now that you mention that, wt1, I see an upright 2 and an upright 5.
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Posted 07/13/2013   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pjsstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay one last scan. I don't know if this concludes anything or adds to the mystery.

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Posted 06/01/2014   08:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a meter I would like some help with please?



Also, here is an interesting page on meter franking machines I thought you might enjoy.

http://www.officemuseum.com/mail_machines.htm
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Posted 06/01/2014   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The meter is listed in the United States Postage Meter Stamp Catalog as type HC1, from the Commercial Controls Corporation. First used Feb. 25, 1946. The catalog doesn't indicate any premium value to it.

Robert
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Posted 06/01/2014   08:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found it on a cover I was scanning up for the postmark calendar and I noticed I hadn't labeled it or even I.D.'d it (the above meter) yet. Below is the cover it is on. I may have shown it here before.

Front:



Back:
Emerson Electric Motors 5HP and smaller.
Engraved image, intaglio press printing.

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Posted 06/01/2014   09:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The meter is Catalog# H4 made by Commercial Controls Corp.
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Posted 06/01/2014   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much smauggie.
"Commercial Controls Corporation" hence the CC - so the numerals 9986 is the machine number correct?
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Posted 06/01/2014   09:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPMSC indicates type HC1 for machines in the no. 6000-10048 series are replacement dies. I assume the replacement dies were for machines originally manufactured by the National Postal Meter (NPM) Company. NPM changed its name to Commercial Controls Corp. in 1944.
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Posted 06/01/2014   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Correct, ILS.
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Posted 06/01/2014   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Trainwreck & Smauggie!
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Posted 06/01/2014   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have one older PB Meter stamp, and since I saw this thread, thought it a good place to post. Nothing special about it, PB 51001, but I saw the cryptic note on the back and wondered about the date of first use.



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Posted 06/01/2014   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure it is not S1001? I have never seen a meter quite like this before and it is not in the catalog. I am guessing it is an experimental type.
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Posted 06/01/2014   1:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Trainwreck to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is from the USPMSC: "Meter 51001 was the first production Mailomat. It was placed in the New York General Post Office on May 17, 1939. 51001 was also used October 10-12, 1939 at the National Convention of Postmasters in Washington, DC." It is USPMSC type VM-A-GB2. No indication of any premium value in the catalog for this particular meter variety. Ones generated in Washington are rated RRR in the catalog.

I like it.

Robert

Edit: Appendix G lists a catalog value of $15.00 for a cover in 1994; $25.00 for a FDC and $65.00 for a Washington usage.
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Posted 06/01/2014   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Trainwreck and Smauggie. I guess it's a keeper, with a note on the values from Trainwreck.

Here's a better closeup. Definitely 51001.



I'll have to do more research on the Lewis'. The receiver is my Grandma, and the other is a company/individual probably related to her.
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Posted 06/01/2014   7:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I Brake For Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is an education for me. I've never heard of the Mailomat and I wonder what made it go extinct. Very impressive card and cover!

I've found that it was first placed into public service in New York City on May 17, 1939.

http://stamporama.com/articles/disp...A5rAHsDu0pbE

But I cannot...find when it was last used and why it was taken out of service.


-IBFS
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