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Posted 02/26/2014   7:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add elk117 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
In which Precancel catalog will I find listings for the Postage Dues/ Special Delivery type issue, I've checked the Town & Type and the Bureau catalogs but cannot find anything. So how do I know if the stamps I have are a T&T or a Bureau Precancel.

David
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Posted 02/26/2014   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There were only 2 postage due stamps precancelled at the Bureau of Engraving and Printing. They are the 1 and 2 cent of 1916 precancelled New Orleans LA. ALL other postage due [and special delivery] are local [non bureau]. The two New Orleans are listed in the PSS Bureau catalog. All the others are either listed in the PSS Town & Type catalog, or the Silent Precancels catalog, or not recognized as precancels.
The T&T catalog does not list every denomination of stamp found with each precancel. Many types were used on PD's, many not.
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Posted 02/27/2014   03:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add elk117 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Chasa,
I've made a note of your explanation for future reference. I may be the secretary of the PSSGB but have only been collecting pre-cancels for 1 years and still finding it difficult. It's a minefield, quite a large step up from collecting general issues.

Many thanks
David Hughes
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Posted 02/27/2014   08:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
David - they can be bewildering and overwhelming. Like me trying to get my arms around Machin head perfins! Luckily, both specialties can be started for very modest cash outlay.
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Posted 02/27/2014   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CHASA & ELK117. The bulk of items out there in the precancelled world is what led me to limit my precancel collecting habits. Just of for the record (no one but me cares...) I collect 2 US States, US perfinned Precancels (all of them), US & Canada precancelled postal stationery, GB precancelled postal stationery (not many out there, and they are a tad pricey), Canadian Precancels, and Worldwide Precancels when I find them (not searching them out, but trying for at least one from each country that does this sort of thing). One would think this would be enough, but in the overall collection, there are many, many more things I hoard.
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Posted 02/27/2014   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since we apparently have some who collect precancelled perfins, can anyone identify this one for me -- or are the pins so far out of place it becomes hopeless?



I even tried inverting the precancel in the event it could be upside down:



Any ideas?
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Posted 02/27/2014   11:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WT1: If no one gets it before I get home this evening I will look it up. There are enough "holes" to ID it.
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Posted 02/27/2014   1:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
PoStat - what 2 states do you collect? I have lots of duplicates of the things you collect if you want to email me off-board.
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Posted 02/28/2014   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WT1: Sorry for delay. What I believe you have is a HPE Perfin "H160". HPE=Elliot Addressing Machine Company, Boston, MA. "E" rated perfin.
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Posted 02/28/2014   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info. Interestingly, I looked up the Elliott Addressing Machine and came up with this interesting history of the father and son behind the name ... more specifically "HPE" = Harmon P. Elliott:

http://www.ci.watertown.ma.us/Docum...ome/View/644
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Posted 02/28/2014   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add PoStat4evR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
WT1: Thanks for the link. It is nice to know the "behind the scenes" reasoning for perfin patterns ID once and a while. I put in a nice note to the city of Watertown for the article.
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