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Posted 07/10/2014   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add colonelrklink to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I was looking thru some of my RC future delivery stamps RC16-21 and noticed some that have handstamped cancels but when you look at the back you see the impressions for 2 rows of cuts. Yet there are no tears or rips defacing the front of the stamp, just impressions.

Does this constitute a cut cancel if it does not break the paper even with a handstamped cancel?

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Posted 07/10/2014   7:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes. If it can be seen it exists.
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Posted 07/11/2014   07:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I actually enjoy a nice herringbone cut cancel (just as an example piece) but I wouldn't intentionally purchase one.
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Posted 07/11/2014   07:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Occasionally it can be helpful to have one, such as on a bisect.
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Posted 07/11/2014   08:43 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes. If it can be seen it exists.


It may technically still be a cut cancel due to the design, however not everyone uses the lower "cut cancel" Scott values or pricing if the pattern does not actually break the surface of the paper... and that includes both Eric and Richard from time to time.
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Posted 07/11/2014   3:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If it was put in for a cert it would be considered a cut cancel. Some stamps that are really scarce uncut might bring a higher price if the cancel does not break the paper, but not too many unless it is being sold for another reason, a DT, etc.
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Posted 07/11/2014   8:53 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't disagree with you on the technical merits... it still IS a cut cancel, but the marketplace does seem to value them differently when they don't break the surface of the paper. Perhaps not the same valuation as truly uncut, but something between cut and normal Scott values (ignoring normal discounting from Scott for the moment).

In other words, for the uninitiated, don't automatically circular file a cut cancel that doesn't break the surface.

Actually, now that I think about it, don't ever can a cut cancel or perfin cancel on a 20th-century revenue without checking Scott first, especially high denominations.
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Edited by revenuecollector - 07/11/2014 8:55 pm
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Posted 07/11/2014   9:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add colonelrklink to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
TY for the wisdom. I need to do exactly that in not discarding a stamp just because of the cut cancel or appearance of one. I need to determine things like when was that last time I even saw this stamp in any mode etc.

Once again thank you. Am learning a wealth of knowledge and guidance from this site.

Respectfully,
Richard
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