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Posted 11/11/2014   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rumb to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Doesn't quite seem to be a cut down P1 as there is no die impression, margins too big to be a P2.



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Posted 11/11/2014   12:51 pm  Show Profile Check orstampman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add orstampman to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it could be Scott 2433a (the 90c Lincoln from the 1989 Souvenir Sheet). What are the design dimensions?
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I thought the proofs need the line on right. I believe this is a P3 (India)

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Posted 11/11/2014   4:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rumb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 122P2's don't seem to have the line.



I dont have a P1 or a good images to tell if they do, but don't think they do.

I think the line shows up on the plates, but not the dies.



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Could be. One thing I just noticed on my proof is the lettering in "US POSTAGE" is dipping into the inner frame line, is that normal ?

Are all the stamps in the block a shifted central vignette ?
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Edited by stallzer - 11/11/2014 8:44 pm
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if that line is a result of the black part of the two-part die then it would only show up on stamps from those plate(s) with that central vignette centering, or lack of there of- no?
Also that looks like a P4 on card or a color trial (of the actual picked colors) or a die proof? Is is a cut down die "sunk"- I can't see very well on my monitor but the margins on that sort of narrow down the possibilities. It's a really cool piece though!
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Edited by I_Love_Stamps - 11/12/2014 02:44 am
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Posted 11/12/2014   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rumb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
P3's and P4's are all plate proofs, so they would have the registration lines. I would think centering the vignette was a big problem for them, this set the first time they had to do that.

The P1 and P2 being die proofs would not ever have the registration lines.

I am leaning toward this is a cut down P1, based on no lines and the margin sizes.

Here are the registration lines on the Atlanta's, you can see the second color lines easily, since it was from a plate.




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Posted 11/12/2014   12:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add I_Love_Stamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks! I see what you mean now!
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Posted 11/19/2014   8:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rumb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And the correct answer is a fake, laser printed. Anyway the ensuing discussion was informative.
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