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Posted 03/29/2015   12:34 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this topic Add revenuecollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
If not for the horizontal crease at the top, this would be one of those items that goes for crazy money at auction. Still, gotta love the margins...




Some might trim off the top stamp to make a ginromous jumbo out of the bottom one.

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Posted 03/29/2015   07:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a horizontal crease in the bottom stamp too, along the bottom of the design.
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Posted 03/29/2015   09:37 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I initially thought that too, but dipped it and it didn't show anything.
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Posted 03/29/2015   09:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add srailkb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When a crease is visible in a scan like that, there's a near-100% chance it's actually there :-)

It may not show well while "in" fluid (if it's well-pressed as it appears,) but the damaged fibers in that bottom stamp appear to span the entire width. Those should "flash" white shortly after being removed from fluid.

Are you using Clarity by any chance? That dries way too quickly for my liking, and could make it much more difficult to detect a fault like this. Ronsonol should show it for at least several seconds while drying, probably longer.
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Posted 03/29/2015   10:22 am  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I still have a bottle of old "Supersafe" watermark fluid that I use.
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Posted 03/29/2015   11:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It might be a natural paper wrinkle on the bottom stamp, which usually does not show in fluid. These stamps were not printed on the best paper ever made.
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Posted 04/15/2015   5:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi All

Sorry to say, but there is a definite crease on the bottom stamp at the bottom of the design. This would be considered a damaged pair to most collectors! Hope you did not pay very much for it. Margin about normal.

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Posted 04/15/2015   5:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What there is is a line that has the appearance of a crease in this image. Since it does not show up in fluid, it might be a flash crease, but they are not usually visible to the naked eye until after you know it's there. It still might be a natural flaw in the paper which does not involve any paper loss or damage. There is no way to tell without a direct examination.
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Posted 04/15/2015   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Notice the crease at top is much wider and has a wrinkled appearance throughout. It's obvious in several places that the paper was clearly bent. The right margin and numerals show this very clearly. But the line on the bottom is very thin and has a smooth surface without any of the wrinkling that is visible on the edges of the crease above. It still might be a crease, but there is definite reason to think that it might not be.
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Revcollector, what is a flash crease, never heard of this before, please teach me what it is!

I agree with you, as there is no way to tell without a direct examination.

But you must agree, sure looks like a crease.

Being all this said, hope the collector did not pay much for it.

Such a pity, otherwise seems like a good pair!

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Posted 04/15/2015   6:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A flash crease is one that is invisible to the naked eye or when dipped in fluid, but will show up as the fluid dries when the stamp is held at an oblique angle under a light. The stamp itself dries a bit faster than the crease does, so when it is almost dry the crease "flashes", that is to say a dark line becomes visible where the crease is. Flash creases usually happen when a creases stamp has been ironed, something that clearly has not happened here or the top crease would not be so obvious.
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Revcollector, OK, thanks, this is what we used to call a concealed crease, same thing, just a different name.

Ta

Dave
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