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New Find Washington 2 Cent- A 88 Type Lll Or Type Lv?

 
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Posted 10/18/2015   11:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Stamppaige to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Need help from the pros. I can't tell even when I'm reading it in Scott.If a IV, what kind of value? Just got this one with a bunch of 1900-1958 US stamps. Would appreciate the help.







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Posted 10/18/2015   11:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
#267 A 88 ? Still can't tell 3 from 4.Can't see a toga button.
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Posted 10/18/2015   12:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you sure it's an 88?
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Posted 10/18/2015   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGB, I'm never sure. The more I get into this I find how clueless at times I am.I think it could be a 267 or a 279. Best guess.
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Posted 10/18/2015   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Are you able to test for a watermark? 248-52 have none. 265-7 have a double line watermark as do 279B, C, and D.

Next we talk colors.

EDIT: Yes, it's an A88 design. Forgive me, but I thought you considered the stamp to be Sc nr. 88! (Yeah, I'm an idiot.)
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KGB, No problemo. Just glad to have someone helping out with a second opinion which is needed. I will test with my handy Ronson tomorrow if I can. Sidenote; I'm going to South Carolina Tuesday to help out with the flooding problem ( Insurance Adjusting) and if I can't get to it tomorrow I will get'r'done when I get back next week. Thanks again. I thought it might be seen on the stamp front surface!
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Posted 10/18/2015   8:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since I'm no good with colors, I'll give the whole run-down.

248 pink, type I
249 carmine lake, type I
250 carmine, type I
251 carmine, type II
252 carmine, type III

265 carmine, type I
266 carmine, type II
267 carmine, type III

279B red, type III
279C rose carmine, type III
279D orange red, type III
and--I missed this one--
279F deep red, type III
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Posted 10/18/2015   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the type, my Scott lists three possibilities: I, II, and III.

I believe you have a type III (where the lines in the triangle are thinner than those without and none of the lines cross the frame of the triangle.)
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Posted 10/18/2015   8:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Watermark doesn't help as much as you'd think here. Do a much higher resolution scan so we can see the oval near the you of UNITED and the T of TWO. All type IVs are from the late printings, and there are lots of shades. You only need to watermark if it's a type III.

Dang forum software keeps changing my letter you to the word you when I post. :(
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Edited by billsey - 10/18/2015 8:43 pm
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KGB, Well with my color expertise, that narrows it down to:

252 carmine, type III
267 carmine, type III
279B red, type IV
279C rose carmine, type IV
279F deep red, type IV

Holy Moly I'm in need of lighter fuel and new eyeballs.
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Posted 10/18/2015   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Billsey,
This do what's needed?



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Posted 10/18/2015   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm dying to see how this turns out!
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Posted 10/18/2015   11:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a type III, which means we do need the watermark. The type IV should have some of the lines from the vignette extend into the white curve and should have a straight edge at the top right of the T. I don't see an of the lines and your T has a tiny wiggle on that right edge.
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Posted 10/19/2015   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stamppaige to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see what you are saying and concur. Narrows it to 252 carmine, type III
267 carmine, type III, I believe.Got to get the Ronson, will do today if I can.
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Hi,

I was looking at my A88 2 cents and while searching on the forum I found a lot of threads on the matter. All interesting.

I choose this particular one to show about type III and IV.

Two stamps on cover:

a) Type III with a machine cancellation from New Haven dated Nov 1st 1896. No watermark.

b) Type IV with machine cancellation from New York City dated Oct 17th 1898. Watermark is a complete double line U. Pretty well centered top part of the stamp.

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