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Posted 01/17/2017   04:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add joker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,
I already learned a lot here. But I am ready to read something about the US classic stamps (Washington Franklin, stamps 1860-1930?).

I know there is a book by Larry Weiss but I didn't find a shop to buy (and deliver to Europe). Perhaps there is a PDF?

Or are there any other books (real paper or PDF) with a kind of introduction into US classic stamps?

I don't mean research papers of 500 pages for experts, but really something for beginners. Also I would prefer a book not older than 10 years.

Is there anything?
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Posted 01/17/2017   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For example, I found this type chart here, this is really great (although it's older than 10 years...)

are there more like this also for other stamps from this period? and where can I find them?

And: yes I know these websites with stamp identification, but I really prefer books, PDFs or charts like this.

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Posted 01/17/2017   08:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For 19th Century stamps, your best bet is to download the 3-volume Brookman work available for free on the United State Philatelic Classics Society webpage here - http://www.uspcs.org/resource-cente...nic-library/
It is still the best general reference for 19th century stamps even though the revised edition is 50 years old.
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Posted 01/17/2017   08:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

yes I already downloaded this and read a bit in it. But still, I didn't find things like type charts or identification guidelines, only for a few stamps. (I concentrate on stamps from about 1900 and older). that's why I hoped that there would be another introduction. but there isn't?
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Posted 01/17/2017   10:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is the Scott Identification Guide -
https://www.amosadvantage.com/produ...category=BKS But I don't know of a free .pdf download of the book.
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Posted 01/17/2017   10:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It seems the book that you are looking for is Max G Johl and Beverly S King's book United States Postage Stamps of the Twentieth Century, Vol 1 contains the Washington/Franklins. I downloaded all 3 volumes a few years ago, but can not find the site again. Maybe another member has that link.
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Posted 01/17/2017   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you for this hint, seems to be a good book to me. now I also saw another guide:
Micarelli Identification Guide to you S Stamps: Regular Issues, 1847-1934

what is the difference to the Scott guide, or which has more detailed images of the stamps for me?

--- ok I now saw that the author of the Scott guide is also Micarelli :) sorry. And I also saw the other mentioned book as PDF. thank you.

https://siegelauctions.com/enc/pdf/Johl_Vol_1.pdf
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Posted 01/17/2017   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Since the downloads are in PDF form, I tried to copy it, copies the text fine, but excludes the illustrations and if I understand correctly, that is what you are looking for. Sorry. I though it was the USPCS electronic library I used but don't see this book on their site.
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Posted 01/17/2017   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mml1942 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I found all four volumes on the Robert A Siegel site, at...

https://siegelauctions.com/enc.php?...c_Literature

I downloaded All four Volumes and got all the illustrations.

Mike
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Posted 01/17/2017   12:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Joker -

As we define the "Wash-Franklin stamps" - they are from 1908 - 1921. 13 years. Not 1860-1930. (70 years?!)

The stamps are 100 years old. What is the issue with the 'last 10 years'?? What do you think changed in the last 10 years??

The chart you showed looks good. There is not much more to add to that. These are the issues with the Wash-Franklin series...

It isn't a series for beginners. It is a small set of stamps, with a large range of perforation, watermark, and printing differences. Takes years, in some cases, to be able to accurately differentiate among them. Before you start with this series, you must be very adept at measuring perfs, detecting watermarks, and looking at very intricate details of stamps with a magnifying glass. Until you're ready for this level of detail, the Wash-Frank series can wait!

If you feel you're ready, the Scott catalog is as good a place to start as any. Lots of into online. Just on this site - search around & you'll find more than enough sources...

But the basic info has not changed in 100 years. No need to have anything recent to understand US classics...

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Posted 01/17/2017   2:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thank you all again.
yes, I know this is a complicated topic, but that what's interesting to me.

I just said "last ten years" as I knew the "old books" already, and in the last years there has been some improvement in creating learning books :). So I hoped for a newer introduction into this topic with less text and more tables and charts. I am not a fast food reader, but we have to admit that publishing books has developed.
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Posted 01/17/2017   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RK1468 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I recently found the three Brookman volumes on the USCPS site. I'm finding them to be incredibly informative as well as enjoyable and charmingly quirky. Not surprisingly, it seems to be very much a work of its time (and earlier) where he cites letters that were sent to him by experts on various topics and describes stamps and covers that he'd seen in others' collections. Is there much hope of anyone writing an authoritative volume on 19th century US classics that includes the work that's been done since 1966? I guess part of the issue is that there doesn't seem to be the sort of academic interest in philately that might motivate someone to take this on. On a related note, has anyone assembled a comprehensive bibliography of recent work (say, 1965 to now) on the US classics?
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Posted 01/17/2017   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The USPCS attempted to update the Brookman volumes but the project was not successful. Most of the new research on classic stamps has been published in the Chronicle the journal of the USPCS. The entire run of the Chronicle is available in a text searchable database on the webpage - here http://www.uspcs.org/resource-cente...e-chronicle/
Non-members can search and read all but the most recent issues (I believe the most recent 5 years are available to members only)
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Posted 01/17/2017   5:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jkelley01938 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
joker,

You can download the Johl books, but you might be better off just starting out with a Scott US catalog. Or MYSTIC (for free). There is a lot of material (and synopses thereto) for you to review on Amazon.

Jack Kelley
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Posted 01/17/2017   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joker, try this link...discussion and pics...very helpful.

http://www.jamesdire.net/W-F.html
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Posted 01/17/2017   8:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add agmasd56 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very helpful post thanks
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