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Grill Help Needed 15 Cent Lincoln

 
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Posted 01/23/2017   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add decrynne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi Guys. I am having trouble with this. I am guessing an E grill, but would much appreciate help before I give it a Scott number. I have no scanner yet but hopefully pictures will suffice. It measures 11mm By 14mm- I know that is in the range of a z grill but I doubt very much I would have that kind of luck :) Thanks





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Posted 01/23/2017   09:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The ridges on the grill points appear to be vertical rather than horizontal, so not one of the two known copies of the 15 cent black Z grill. I count a definite 17 rows vertically, and 13 rows horizontally with evidence of a 14th cut off by the perforations in the last photo. So 14 by 17 points = E grill.
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Posted 01/23/2017   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Dudley. Yes, I did not really think I was about to get rich- nice as it would be :) I can't see evidence of a 14th ridge but I will take your word for it. Cheers
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Posted 01/23/2017   11:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I concur with the 14x17 count. The fourteenth column is right on the edge of the perforations, but you can see the 14th point for the top row.

Would you be willing to show us the same size closeup view of the area on the left side opposite the first view? I want to rule out a split grill, recognizing that the points would probably be in the perf teeth on either side of the stamp. Muy hunch is that it will not show much on the left since this grill just barely touches the perf area - but it might be worth a look anyway.
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Edited by essayk - 01/23/2017 11:43 am
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Posted 01/23/2017   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excuse me guys..There was no scott number..Is this the stamp you guys are talking about...?

Robert


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Posted 01/23/2017   12:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is the from the front and in watermark fluid.

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Posted 01/23/2017   1:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yes, wert, that is the design. Assuming the E Grill diagnosis is correct we are talking about Scott #91.
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Posted 01/23/2017   1:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks dudley..Guess mine is a scott 91..Thanks

Robert
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Posted 01/24/2017   11:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For viewing the grill in the pictures the watermark fluid does not help, it interferes by cutting the sharpness of the image. I'm seeing an effect that looks like pixellation. With the stamp face down and dry, would you be willing to show us the same SIZE area as in the original picture, but on the left side of the stamp when you have it placed as in figure 1 above?
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Posted 01/29/2017   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Essayk.. Sorry, been gone for a bit. There is no split grill.. This is the only image I could find- shows it clearly enough I hope. Regards

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Posted 01/29/2017   8:47 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an illustration I did to show differences between the grill orientation.
Don

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Posted 01/29/2017   8:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Don. That is great :) One question, do the points up/down refer to which side of the stamp the grill was applied?
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Posted 01/29/2017   9:08 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi,
Good point, I'll add additional an illustration to show the side of the stamp. 'Points up' mean they protrude upward through face of stamp. 'Points down' mean they protrude downward through back of stamp.
Don
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Posted 01/29/2017   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Don, that is actually a lot of help.
Declan
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