Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Thousands of stamps, consistently graded, competitively priced and hundreds of in-depth blog posts to read
Stamp Community Forum
 
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Columbian 3 Cent Boat Size

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 14 / Views: 1,400Next Topic  
Valued Member

Austria
197 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add decrynne to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi. As far as I know (and I have loads to learn) I have not come across this topic before. I do know with the Pan-Americans there are slow trains/fast trains for example.. But has anyone any information about Big boats/small boats (or the like) when it comes to the 3 cent Columbian? I was just going through my stamps when I noticed these..the boat on the right is huge compared to the one on the left.


Send note to Staff

Valued Member
Learn More...
United States
495 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   8:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Boats look to be the same size to me. I think the postmarks are distorting perspective.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
949 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rgstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm intrigued, but skeptical. Illusion? Never heard of this variation.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Austria
197 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi. But no, look how close the boat on the left is to the bottom frame line.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Austria
197 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the same stamp on its own and again beside a different stamp than before




Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
7239 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great optical illusion! The heavy cork cancel (blob) on the left stamp draws your eye into its boundaries, making the ship look smaller. The cancel on the right stamp frames the ship, and draws your eye out to its boundaries, making the ship look bigger.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
1342 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The new photos help. I agree with Rhett ... I believe the ink from the cancellation is distorting the eye's view of the boat. The cancel covers the area where the keel meets the water. For whatever reason, there appears to be an attempt by our brains to add part of the inked-in area to the boat, extending the keel & making the boat seem larger.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
10716 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:33 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



I didn't play with the scale but you can still tell the boats are the same size.

The Pan-Americans used two printing passes, so you can get 'fast/slow' type of things. This stamp was one pass, impossible to see the same thing.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Austria
197 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guys, thanks. I stand corrected. I have just measured it up. Cant trust my own eyes it seems.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
Austria
197 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   9:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add decrynne to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow. Thanks, that is very cool.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2750 Posts
Posted 01/29/2017   10:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampcrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, brilliant as usual!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
894 Posts
Posted 01/30/2017   6:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
51Studebaker - what tool(s) did you use to create this effect? This would be very helpful in explaining or just studying color or size difference in stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
894 Posts
Posted 01/30/2017   6:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It must be the scan...but the bottom edge of the colored portion of the stamp is virtually on the same line. So, look at the top edge. And measuring the pictures on my large screen desktop also shows differences in size.

I was first clued into this looking at the motion of 51Studebakers tool. The top and bottom edges don't change at all (hold a ruler to the screen as it changes and you'll see) but the location of the numbers and writing jumps up and down. Go figure.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Moderator
Learn More...
United States
10716 Posts
Posted 01/30/2017   6:47 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Caper,
It appears that the image was taken with a digital camera and the camera angle was not perfectly perpendicular to the stamps. This gives them a bit of a skew top to bottom. I used Adobe Photoshop to crop and layer the images and then use Jasc Animation Shop to animate them.
Don
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
894 Posts
Posted 01/30/2017   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Don

Paul
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous TopicReplies: 14 / Views: 1,400Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.


Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2022 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2007 - 2022 Stamp Community Forums
It took 0.69 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05