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Posted 02/06/2017   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add joker to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello,

I searched now for one hour in Google and here in the forum but don't find it anymore. I saw once an information about an error in the 2 Cents Washington (red stamp with numbers "2 Cents 2" A140). In one or both "2" there was a horizontal line. Which error is this and has it a Scott ID?

And by the way, because my literature and catalogues are all older ones: when was the really major finding of an error (perf, waste, printing) of an US classic stamp in the last years? Have there been some major findings (meaning "major" = a really rare stamp). Like the 596, I think it was in the 1960s?
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Posted 02/06/2017   11:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Give up joker! Chances are very slim - it is more likely to win the lottery. Concentrate on enjoying the stamps and learning about them, if something special comes around you might recognize it.


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Posted 02/06/2017   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Joker, are you sure it's a line through the numeral 2? Can't say that I've ever heard of or seen that one but also I'm not a specialist in that area. Are you thinking of the 5 error? or perhaps the 1800's series with the caps on 2's ?
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Posted 02/06/2017   12:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The only reason for a line through the 2 would be an official PODept picture sort of like they now print a line through "forever" when announcing a new stamp issue.


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Posted 02/06/2017   1:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello you both,

yes, I am sure (if I didn't dream it) that I saw a photo of such a 2 cents stamp and at least at the left "2" there was a small white horizontal line through it. I just remembered it as I am looking at a lot 2 cent stamps these days. But if you all don't know it here in this great forum then it doesn't exist. That's also good to know.

About the collection lottery: well, everybody has its own way :). I hope it's also allowed to be another collector type.

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Posted 02/07/2017   5:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Even if this variety did exist it does not sound like it should be classified as an error. An oddity, maybe. A printing anomaly?
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Posted 02/08/2017   12:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aurora to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
as always - exactly what I need. Thank you!
So, the dot on 2 and the brighter hair on the top of the head are just printing anomalies? Please kindly confirm. Thank you.



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Posted 02/08/2017   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Probably under inked, from what I can see. Either under- or over-inking are fairly common on stamps.

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Posted 02/08/2017   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aurora to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much, Peter! ))
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Posted 02/08/2017   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Caper123 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Though I have found no reference to these two particular marks I do like the one in the hair which looks akin to a recut versus the spot on the numeral '2'.
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Posted 02/08/2017   3:48 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an actual #634 plate variety to look for; named the 'long ear' variety and found on this plate in the position shown





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Posted 02/08/2017   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aurora to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Don.
It is so interesting! Thank you for sharing with us.
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Posted 02/08/2017   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aurora, the kind of marks you pointed out on your stamps could possibly be plate varieties (it wouldn't be the first "dot in S" variety on a US stamp), but whether they are consistent varieties or printing anomalies they are not what we would call errors.
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Posted 02/09/2017   03:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my case it was for another stamp. I just made a photoshop simulation for you :).
It looked like this and I read something commenting like "and there are also these known errors you should look for". But after all I really think that I could have dreamed it because my dreams sometimes appear quite realistic :).


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Posted 02/09/2017   12:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billw2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 596 is an incredibly rare stamp, only 15 are confirmed to exist.

Of the 15, 10 have a Kansas City, MO precancel so, without that precancel, 5 are known to exist. Literally BILLIONS of 1c green 4th bureaus were printed so, last time I did the math, I think that we figured the odds to be something like 1 in 10 million on finding one.

Is it possible that there are undiscovered 596s out there? I am sure there are a couple. But the chances are incredibly small, literally like winning the lottery.

Here's the census of them:

https://siegelauctions.com/display_...s.php?id=236
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Posted 02/09/2017   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hello - yes for sure. My question doesn't mean only such extraordinary rare stamps. But as I (like probably many others) only have older catalogues and I just read about the discovery of the 596, I wondered if there have been other findings, let's say the last 20 years. I mean stamps or stamp errors that appear in the Scott and haven't appeared before, or Washington-Franklins that are e.g. not explained in the Micarelli 1991 as they didn't "exist" yet. But many words from my side again :), I think that my found "error" is none and there weren't any findings the last years.

So this topic is done.
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