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US Gutter Pairs Of Benjamin Franklin One Cent Green And George Washington 2 Cent Carmine

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Posted 04/18/2017   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Lioness2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi. Could you please inform me if there is a specified Scott's number classifications for these two US imperforated gutter pairs? I do not know if they are considered scarce or common.
Can anyone inform if this George Washington 2 cent carmine is considered a type 1 based on the assessment of the ear lobe?
Any information would be helpful. These are lovely stamps without gum and in unused conditions.
Thank you in advance.



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Posted 04/18/2017   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
They are not gutter pairs, they are simply imperforated pairs. I believe they are both common.
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Posted 04/18/2017   4:23 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This site might help you ID your stamps.
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847usa...ankmain.html
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Posted 04/18/2017   4:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Don, I went to check stamp smarter before asking this question in the room. Thank you for your suggestion.
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Posted 04/18/2017   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gutter pair definition I was informed are two stamps separated by a gutter which is a space left between to be separated or perforated. So, this stamps are imperforated pairs that were not separated.
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Posted 04/18/2017   4:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I do see a double line watermark for the Benjamin Franklin one cent green. so it has to be 343. imperforated gutter pair.
I would appreciate if someone can verify if the George Washington 2 is a type 1 based on the earlobe.
Thank you
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Posted 04/18/2017   5:04 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 2 cent imperf can only be a 577.
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Posted 04/18/2017   5:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry this is all I have handy at the moment but it shows what a gutter looks like.




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Posted 04/18/2017   5:19 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Gutter pair illustrated in this Glossary
http://www.stampsmarter.com/Learnin...ssary_G.html
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Posted 04/18/2017   6:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for all of your assistance and kind replies. I appreciate you took time to view them.
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Posted 04/19/2017   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Stampman2002 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a couple of examples of U.S. gutter pairs from the 1935 reprint series. This gives you a great visual, like stalzer's, of what a gutter pair is:







For a side-by-side comparison of the same issue, and one which is a little less common, the images of Scott 631 are provided. The first is a regular, horizontal pair with normal spacing between stamps. The second shows a gutter pair, this time in a vertical configuration.





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Posted 04/20/2017   07:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you so much. Those visuals were very helpful. I appreciate your assistance.
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Posted 04/20/2017   08:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wrote in here because I was looking at another Philippines stamps as a comparison. The stamps below are the 1949 Philippines (Scott 534 (a) (b)) Monument of the Bern. These two have different denomination was not sure if it would be considered a gutter pairs.

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Posted 04/20/2017   08:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Lioness2 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Every time I view these stamps off paper or covers, always makes me wonder about them what to consider them in stamp terms. They are not pairs of the same print, however, they same Scott number subcat. (a) and (b) on the same strip of imperforated prints.
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The Philippine Souvenir is very much like the Special printing Byrd Sheet shown above, and as such does have wide gutter between stamps.

The two imperforate pairs you began this thread with look as though the margin between is wider, there are some Washington-Franklin stamps that have a 3 mmm margin between stamps. Have you measured the width of the margins?
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Edited by littleriverphil - 04/20/2017 08:29 am
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