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1906-08 Mlh Guide Line Pair Scott #314 Schermack Perforation.help Me Value My Line Pair?

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Posted 04/28/2017   10:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add edw_kim to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
yes again I could not locate a stamp in the current scott catalog.

please help identify , and value my "extraordinary" find?



plus upload of reverse.

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Posted 04/28/2017   11:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #314 with Shermack Type III perforations, guide line pair unused, has a catalog value of $27.50 in my 2015 Scott U.S. Specialized Catalog. Probably not much different from that now.
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
May be thinned on reverse near Shermack perfs between stamps.
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks rhett for your fine forensic determination! this is confusing because scott does not mention a "guide line pair" maybe I missed something? I will evaluate this again.<i've been wrong before> edw_kim
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rhett can you expain what you mean by "thinned" on the reverse? maybe what you see is part of the hinge which was not completly removed?
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1. To see the guide line pair value, you have to have the Scott Specialized catalog of US stamps & covers, not a Scott worldwide catalog, and read all the comments and notes.

2. In the first image of the front of the stamps, a darkened region is visible above the top center perforation, to the left and right of that perforation. This may indicate a region of paper that is thinner than the rest.

3. The thinned region can be caused by improperly pulling off a hinge or hinge fragment. Basically when the hinge was soaked off or pulled off, some of the stamp paper on the back comes with it. A thin is a fault that reduces value.
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
edw_kim: To locate these, you need to look in the VENDING & AFFIXING MACHINE PERFORATIONS section of the Scott US Specialized Catalogue. In my 2016, these are on pages 563-569. This would likely be in about the same location in other years. Within this section, you would first identify the perforation type (Schermack type III) and then look for the base catalogue number (314). To id the perforation type, just compare your stamps to the photos in the catalogue. Generally, the stamps are first grouped by the vending machine company ... and then by the actual perf type ... and finally by the base catalogue number.
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Posted 04/28/2017   11:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cjpalermo1964 thanks for explaining what "thinned" means..that was new information.thanks..and yes maybe the hinge was removed improperly.!
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Posted 04/29/2017   12:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry, in my answer I should have explained where to look in the Specialized for these. JLLebbert's info above about where to look and cjpalermo's description of thinning are both right on!
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Posted 04/29/2017   1:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks rhett..my stamp is the "Rembrandt" of Franklin Stamps...ha ha ha
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Posted 04/29/2017   1:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Isn't this one of the earliest U.S. coils just looking at the stamp issue? This same looking stamp with regular perforations on with two opposite sides and two imperforate opposite sides is quite rare and valuable.
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Posted 04/29/2017   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rhett to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jogil, this is not considered to be an early U. S. coil; it was produced in imperforate form by the BEP but was perforated by a private company (Shermack), so does not qualify as a U. S. coil. The same design and type, however, is listed as a U. S. definitive in perforated 12 (#300), imperforate (#314), and perforated 12 coils horizontally (#316) and vertically (#318) forms. So privately perforated coils are generally not U. S. coils; the only exceptions to this that have been made that I know of are #314A and #482A, which are listed as U. S. definitives only because their design and type do not exist purely imperforate (i.e. the only way they exist without government perforations is with Type III Shermack perforations). So the choice was made to list those two as U. S. definitives rather than list them with the vending company creations.
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Posted 04/29/2017   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks jogil ..thanks rhett..
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Posted 05/04/2017   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
since we were discussing schermack.. I purchased a lot maybe twenty different schermack recently,and of the twenty .one in particular could possibly be the 65K ($$) stamp ,the rare scott # 482a deep rose.
check it out? the images.. and offer additional feedback.?

front and reverse attached below>see images..



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Posted 05/05/2017   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would send it in to the Philatelic foundation for certification.
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Posted 05/05/2017   8:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add edw_kim to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stallzer I am now an APS member and plan to send it to stamps.org for expertizing!
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