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Got Any 19th Century Fancy Cancels On US Stamps Or Covers?

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Posted 04/20/2008   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here is a NY fancy cancel on a cover to Pittsfield, Mass.



Can you see the grill on this stamp?



Pittsfield is where I met bobgggg and philb!
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Posted 04/21/2008   10:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Here is a NYC fancy cancel on Civil War era cover to
Midshipman H. C. Nye at the Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland.
Anyone know what the B. G. R. 12 means?



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Posted 04/22/2008   7:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gussyboy1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe it means Barracks-G, rack 12? I don't know, but it sounds good! ha

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Posted 04/22/2008   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphop to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a very similar fancy cancel to one of Tom's, but not on envelope alas. Still, it is one of the older stamps I have, so I like it.

I also like the way the cancel seems a little off-balance.

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Posted 04/22/2008   8:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphop to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I also have, thanks to my grandfather, these non-postal(?) stamps that have been ink-pen canceled (I think).

Anyone know what these are?

And can decipher what's written on them?

I guess that the numbers are dates (June '65 and July 8 '64).

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Posted 04/22/2008   9:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scott #R3c 1c Proprietary revenue stamp and Scott #R6c 2c Bank Check revenue stamp.

These were issued to raise taxes to pay for the Civil War.

Proprietary tax stamps were used to show that the tax had been paid
on proprietary items such as patented medicines and perfumes.

Bank check stamps showed that the tax had been paid on a bank check.

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Posted 04/22/2008   9:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice fancy cancel, stamphop!
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Posted 04/25/2008   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphop to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info t360 (and the compliment).

Not sure if this one is called a fancy cancel or just obliteration...

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Posted 05/03/2008   11:04 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That one looks like a heavily overinked negative "D" cancel. Many cities and towns used negative letter cancels similar to this one. They are considered fancy cancels. Recently I bought a cover with a negative "B" cancel from Boston.
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Posted 05/04/2008   7:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamphop to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Neat. I never noticed that there that 'D' uninked - to busy looking at the mess of ink. just Would 'D' be for Denver maybe?
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Posted 05/04/2008   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modern_who to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Anyone know what the B. G. R. 12 means?


Looks like B.6 - R.12

Maybe it designates the training unit this midshipman was in at the Naval Academy.
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Posted 05/05/2008   02:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add desertgem to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

In the University mail was delivered to Building number, room number, so maybe
a similiar system Building #6, Room 12.

And Tom , T360, and others through the thread, nice stamps.

Tom, I know very well how long, and how patient a collector must be to gather that
group of stamps.

Stamphop, if you get involved with Back of the Book, it can keep you busy for
the rest of your life. A lot of history and beautiful engraving there!

Good evening

Jim
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Posted 05/06/2008   11:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I pulled these...
Are they what you would consider "fancy"
or are they the "standard" cancel for the era?













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Posted 05/07/2008   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add t360 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
(1) is called a duplex cancel because it has two parts - a "town cancel" combined with a "killer" cancel.
This is a NYC duplex. Duplex cancels are not usually considered "fancy".
(2) Philadelphia duplex
(3) Slate Lick, Pa. Town cancel with fancy target cancel
(4) indistinct town cancel (Ohio town) with fancy quarter wedge
(5) Chicago duplex - "M. S." is interesting
(6) Leesburg, PA town cancel with fancy target

Since target cancels are fairly common and were used by a lot of different towns,
they really need to be boldly struck to command a premium.
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Posted 05/07/2008   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're the best!

Now I know what a duplex is. Learned something!

That Chicago is funny to me too.
Do you know what the M.S. means?
At first I thought Mississippi or Missouri, but
It seems they wouldn't have a period after each
letter that way. One at the most, behind the
pair, would mean "state" to me.

There is what appears to be a comma after "Chicago".
That, combined with the way the word is clocked over
between 9 and 1, leaves me with the impression that
IL or ILL would have followed, over between 2 and 4.

Thoughts?

Edit:
Forgot to mention how the name gets me too.
"Miss Fload Goodheart"
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Edited by ratio411 - 05/07/2008 6:06 pm
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