Got Any 19th Century Fancy Cancels On US Stamps Or Covers?

The Hartford, CT town cancel looks like it is Mar 21 or Mar 31.
The earliest documented usage of #114 is March 27, 1869.
I think it is most likely from 1870.

Maddux Brothers,
Dealers in Manufactured and Leaf Tobacco,
AND CIGARS.
27 West Pearl Street, Cincinnati.



Jackson behind bars!



2c Jackson with a dark blue 7 bar grid cancel.

The Utica, NY fancy town cancel with diamonds (which I showed on this ladies cover from 1852-3)
must have been in use for many years,



since I found this Sept 7, 1839 stampless cover with the same style town cancel in red!
(except that it has a period after the "Y" in "N. Y.")





I bought this nearly 170 year old cover from an APS sales circuit box for a few dollars.

I couldn't resist this 1876 cover (sent from NY to Paris) when it appeared on one of those online auction sites.
It has a bold New York Foreign Mail cancel on a General Zachary Taylor 5 cent blue banknote issue.

Seeing all these neat cancels is making me drool again. I have been going thru my stuff and it seems the only fancy cancels I have right now are the flag cancels, but that doesn't mean that I won't get lucky and find some sometime soon. Thanks Alot for showing.

That's a beautiful Zachary T. cancel--thanks for sharing!

Gussyboy1

I have a question about these--they are cut from stamped envelopes--doesn't that essentially take away any value they have?? I have a page of these that I pulled out from one of the ebay lots I bought.

Note that the three cent Washington is from St. Louis, Missouri and is dated either 1856 or '66! That would make it my oldest stamp,( I think.) The others have great cancels on them so I posted them also. Any idea of their worth ?
THanks!
Gussyboy1

Here is the stockbook page I put the cancels in.


Thanks!
Gussyboy1

I have got to break down and order that precancels book-- it's $27 from the PSS but probably well worth it.
Gotta go to a Father's Day Chicken Fry put on by a local church--lots of great food! $7 a plate with your drink--not bad--and, I don't have to cook! Yipee!

Gussyboy1

Oops, wrong area--I meant for precancels. Anyway, Happy Father's Day everybody!!

Hello Gussy.....

The large round violet with the target cancel is from the late 1890's Columbian series.
Top left on second sheet is a postcard cut.
Top right is from a letter sheet.
Bottom left is stamp from WW2.

Looks like you have a quite a few from the 1850's & 60's. Difficut to say exactly which are which from these images. There are a few from early 20th century. A few real nice fancy cancels. As a group, not without value. Several look right to be worth a few dollars each. Top photo top row center looks like the oldest one....1853-55...possibly U1 or U5....tough to say, they have 12-20 varieties.....cancel looks like Dec. 5, 1856 ? St. Louis, Mo.

I'll photo copy a few of the Scott pages for these and mail them out tommorrow so you can get a look at some of the listings.

Thanks so much, Tom! I thought that perhaps with being cut off envelopes or stationary that they were not of any value. (I had those bottom stamps in there because I liked their cancels-the WWII stamp (Army and Navy) has what looks like a #16 cancel and I had not seen that number before . The orangish US Internal Rev stamp with Washington (bottom row, fourth item)has a pen cancel, and the Roosevelt 2 cent Red has a Emmaus. PA 1946 cancel, and the 5 cent blue Washington (bottom row, third stamp) looks sorta like it has a thumb print on it in black.)
I just am new at using the catalogs and get frustrated with trying to figure out which of the varieties or subvarieties they are. If you look at the ones on first scan and tell me which ones they are, it will be a good test for me. I will post my answers first.
Thanks!
Gussyboy1

I see where page 412 of the 2004 Scotts Catalog says there is value in the cut squares if they are cut precisely.
I thought the top middle is a SC# U9, value approx $4
top left SC# U164 value approx 70 cents
top right SC# U349 value approx 50 cents
bottom left SC#U413
bottom center SC#U277
bottom right SC#U413
Was I close? I'm not sure how the fancy cancels effect the values--also condition, etc

Thanks for the challenge!
Gussyboy1

Nice cancels there Gusy. I can't wait until I get to find some.

Thanks, CW! These were just tossed into a bag of items I bought on ebay. I have found some good stamps in the lot, and just sorted these the other day. When I saw the St. Louis 1856 cancel my eyebrows raised because I love the history behind them. I guess I cannot call these a Lot from "disappointment bay" after all.

Envelope cut squares are listed in the Scott catalog but have never been a very popular collecting area.
A slight premium exists for a "full corner," which is the complete corner of the envelope cut with both front and back papers.
There is generally no value for those which are cut to shape
(4th row, second item) and no value to cut postcards (1st row, 1st item).
Like stamps, condition depends centering and large even margins,
so closely cropped cut squares (last row, 2nd item) are worth less.

Several of your fancy cancels are interesting!
These add a slight premium.

"Entires" are uncut stamped envelopes, new or used, and are worth more.