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Posted 04/07/2022   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bumping a very old topic...

The first update kit for Verified Reception Stamps is now available. It includes pages that replace existing pages in the book with new images, as well as new entries.

It is available for sale here:

https://www.ericjackson.com/rDetail...3798&this=it

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Posted 04/11/2022   9:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bcantin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great news, Jim! I'll get one. I bought the (original) catalogue about a year ago, and even though I've only got a handful of the Ekko stamps, I enjoy reading the catalogue to learn.

Looking forward to seeing the update kit.

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Posted 04/11/2022   10:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Barry,

I think that I've created a monster...

https://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?LH_...ofca&_sop=16

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Posted 05/05/2022   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bcantin to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ha! But to be fair, I would never have known about these if you hadn't produced your catalogue… I think it got many more of them out to the marketplace and certainly sparked interest amongst collectors.

Plus, the fact that the ABNCo produced these (beautiful) stamps certainly appeals to classic US collectors, historians, and radio buffs alike.

Wait, WHAT??? The prices just hit me there. I was JUST buying things like these for $10 a pop, last year… WOW. Ok maybe you did create a monster… but it's still worth it, because you may have also helped save a lot of these things that are out there but were neglected. I'm a glass half full kind of guy…
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Posted 05/05/2022   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see what this collection ultimately sells for:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/3848615155...jTags=tmp=no

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Must be a record price to pay for a collection of these things:

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Posted 05/06/2022   08:27 am  Show Profile Check 1typesetter's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I had a couple hundred of these a couple of years ago that most didn't reach this level of return.
Guess I should have waited. Although I did get a pretty hefty return on my investment regardless.
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I'm going to bump this one again, since it references a number of matters I want to comment on or inquire about.

Jim, I just ordered the update. Does it add info about AFCO? I have a few and Bob L sold a bunch (mspicata) on eBay back around 2013.They were in pretty high demand back then and sold in the range 50-150 per stamp. They apparently issued stamps for a few stations EKKO did not. (e.g. WGIL - Galesburg, Ill.)

Are you wanting to illustrate Specimens on the catalog/binder? Bob sold a big bunch of these back in 2011. I hope he gave you a list of what he had back then.

Do you still have some stock of the EKKO blank stamps in the 10 colors or whatever? I have a set of five and would like to complement it. Ditto with Bryants.

Unless I missed it, the 2011 version of the binder doesn't seem to say much about altered stamps beyond a couple of paragraphs on pages 105-107. Does the update expand on that? Now that the DXrs are pursuing these with their pocketbooks, it would be nice to see some breadth to the treatment of fakes.

Something else that deserves a bit of attention is some discussion of grading to blow the whistle on the abuses of the eBay traffickers. One guys seems to have dug deep for a large collection and is hawking them internationally at uniform pricing without comment on straight edges, tears and torn sections, missing gum, stains or other defects. Maybe the DXers are indifferent to condition, but philatelists who study these certainly are not.

Anyway, I would love to see your responses to some of these matters in this forum.

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Hi,

AFCO: Nothing has been added for these stamps.

Stamps that are overprinted Specimen are already shown in the book.

Ekko blank stamps: yes, a few. Send a scan of what you have, and I'll see if I have any that you're missing.

Altered stamps: nothing has been added or changed in the introduction. The update kit has a) images of stamps that weren't in the book and b) better quality images of stamps that were in the book.

Lastly, it's pretty much universal these days that some will ignore condition or faults and only focus on, in this case, call signs. Not much that we can do, other than to closely study any of the images that are shown in the auction listing.

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The four or so steady bidders on eBay have been indifferent to condition: straight edge, gum or no gum, faults. Spirited bidding dominated by a few. eBay results shine.
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Posted 07/13/2022   12:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add essayk to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the reply, Jim. Nice to "meet" you. Thank you for your many contributions to philately in the form of the handbooks you have been creating. The radio stamps caught my particular attention.
The first EKKO stamp I ever encountered was a loose single stuck in the pages of a Scott Specialized catalog I had checked out of the local public library while I was a teenager. It was no doubt left there by a frustrated collector who saw the words "American Bank Note Company" printed on it but couldn't find it in the catalog. Packrat that I am I held on to it until quite some time later I saw some discussion of these stamps in an article by Barbara Mueller in, of all places, the Essay-Proof Journal. That caught my attention, but what to do about it?

From that initial chance encounter fast forward 45 years, and I again chanced upon some sellers on eBay who were offering these stamps like they meant business. This was just before your handbook came out, and when it did I was an early buyer. I wanted to know the story, for EKKO, Bryant, and the early development of radio from its start in telegraphy (after that went wireless). The ubiquity of telegraph stamps had set the stage for a philatelic connection, especially the wireless versions from United Fruit, Marconi, and United Wireless (apparently all patterned after the Western Union franks of the time). So did the fact that ABNCo was the creative source for much of the well executed material used by EKKO, and sometimes emulated by others.

. Material + Story = Philatelic potential.

Your notes have opened the door to a field that is surprisingly large, dare I say "vast"?

You wrote:

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The update kit has a) images of stamps that weren't in the book and b) better quality images of stamps that were in the book


The handbook is excellent. It is a great guidebook and intro to the subject. Has there ever emerged any interest in taking it to the next level and producing an actual catalog? Is there a philatelic study circle for this material, or is it pretty much dominated by DXer interests?



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AFCO: Nothing has been added for these stamps.


Based on your notes (p. 89) there is no evidence that the several varieties of these stamps which have survived ever saw distribution and use to a widespread audience. Since they claimed to have been "TRUE VERIFICATION" stamps, presumably they were not made available for direct sale to collectors, but only via station distribution. Yet it is a fact that quite a few have survived, in a variety of colors. The subject might need a bit more discussion; perhaps from a study group?


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Stamps that are overprinted Specimen are already shown in the book.

It is an excellent introduction. But there is so much more material out there begging for listing. A young philatelist could have a field day in documenting an interesting field of study.


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Ekko blank stamps: yes, a few. Send a scan of what you have, and I'll see if I have any that you're missing.

Thank you for looking into it. Here is what I have at present:





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Altered stamps: nothing has been added or changed in the introduction.

It's another broad area crying for study.



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Lastly, it's pretty much universal these days that some will ignore condition or faults and only focus on, in this case, call signs. Not much that we can do, other than to closely study any of the images that are shown in the auction listing.

Given the intrinsic rarity of specific pieces, do you think that in the last decade the material has become too dispersed to meaningfully catalog?


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Posted 08/13/2022   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seems like a lot of money for some blank Ekko stamps:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/284896918562

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Posted 08/20/2022   11:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Jim, I just ordered the update. Does it add info about AFCO? I have a few and Bob L sold a bunch (mspicata) on eBay back around 2013.They were in pretty high demand back then and sold in the range 50-150 per stamp. They apparently issued stamps for a few stations EKKO did not. (e.g. WGIL - Galesburg, Ill.)


The Afco stamps are covered in the second update kit (around 50 are shown), which is coming soon (i.e. a week or two).

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