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Posted 10/04/2021   11:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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"curb market" - a regional term meaning "An informal market formed by parking vehicles containing goods to be sold at a street curb." Some such markets, with increased popularity over time, gained permanent homes inside large, open buildings.


Thank you Chris.

That was my initial suspicion, which prompted the query.
I could not understand how a letter could be addressed to a Curb Market, even if it was in a building, believing there would not be a reliable address for any of the vendors there.
It was certainly curious.

Here in Western Australia we call them "swap meets"
and usually held in car parks.
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Edited by rod222 - 10/04/2021 11:36 pm
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Posted 10/04/2021   11:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
New Curb Street Market Building, Greenville South Carolina 1950
Source "remembering Greenville"
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Edited by rod222 - 10/04/2021 11:47 pm
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Posted 10/05/2021   12:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Curb Market " to a commodity trader like myself , it is a market place to trade smaller lots and it can also mean a place to trade after hours . They also began as a place that was unregulated by regulators . The last Curb Market in the U.S. was the MID-AMERICA COMMODITY EXCHANGE,they became regulated around 1969 or 1970.

It was a trading place with a lot less rules and you had to know who you were dealing with and making trades ,the government closed a lot of them down after too many traders were defaulting on their trade committments .

"Curb" came about after trading hours and the Exchanges closed then traders went outside and stood at the curb to trade .
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Posted 10/05/2021   02:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
rod wrote:

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I could not understand how a letter could be addressed to a Curb Market, even if it was in a building, believing there would not be a reliable address for any of the vendors there.

You will find a fair amount of US mail addressed like this to a business in a commercial building, even without specific office numbers. This changed at some point but the cover shows that the practice continued to at least the 1950s. There were fewer such buildings back then and some very knowledgeable postal workers. This was tolerated even in the largest cities. The pencil notation might be to either specify an office number or PO box number.

This parallels the British practice where if you had a named residence, e.g. "The Willows", it was sufficient to get the mail there, with or without post code. I remember this practice being done up to the late 1960s at least, when I was buying stamps.
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Posted 10/05/2021   03:06 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Postcodes weren't introduced in the UK until the mid-1960s/mid-1970s, although cities had postal districts before that. Postmen/women had to know their route, which was helped by the fact that, in those days, the same person delivered the post every day, at around the same time, so they also got to know the residents.
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Posted 10/05/2021   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The cover also appears to have a pencil notation "B 1325" which could be an office within the building and could have been applied by an office clerk of the building for routing inside.
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Posted 10/05/2021   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is always someone with sharper eyes
Thank you.
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Posted 12/29/2021   11:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RWSD to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello out there!

I can add a few to this topic.
Lately I purchased a box of GB stamps, on and off paper (maybe 600 stamps or more).
All stamps are KGVII half d, 1d and 2 1/2d, mostly from 1904 to 1905.
The triangular cancellation is ONLY on the half penny stamps.
And now it looks like the history behind them is not so easy...




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Posted 12/29/2021   11:34 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
King Edward VII, RWSD. A man who knew how to have fun.
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Posted 12/29/2021   11:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kobo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The triangular marks on EVII stamps were typically used as a pre-cancel on newsprint items and is usually the Telegraph code for the post office concerned. Ken Smith's web site (https://sites.google.com/site/ukpos...county/home) has many lists of UK Post Office data including where known the Telegraph Code, which is where I go to identify one I don't have on record.
Of the items in the scan:
LX - Liverpool Exchange
HU - Hull
FB - Farnborough
CHC - Chigwell Street
GCU - Great Ayton
SU - Sunderland
HNO - Hull Pier Street B.O.

and so on Search English/Welsh/ etc post office lists on Ken's website using (xx) as the search filed where XX is the code in the triangle.

Have Fun
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Posted 01/02/2022   2:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The triangular cancellation is ONLY on the half penny stamps.


Which makes sense, as that stamp paid the "printed matter" rate (being half the base 1d letter rate).

References to the rate will appear as book packets, printed matter and printed papers, among others.
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Posted 01/02/2022   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As serendipity would have it,
Academia left a invite this morning,
to read SCF member, Chris Palermo, his monograph of
"Triangle Postmarks of Ireland"
A great read.

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Posted 01/29/2022   2:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add davis75 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

Can someone pls throw light on the attached triangular postmark?

Thanks
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Posted 01/29/2022   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nope, I'm stumped.
All I have is JE, JO, JV, JC, JL.
May we have an image of the entire article please?
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Edited by rod222 - 01/29/2022 2:50 pm
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Posted 01/29/2022   3:10 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jedburgh?
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