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Posted 06/20/2011   9:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
Hello, here is a postcard showing King George V in what I think is his coronation robe. It's quite elaborate, isn't it. The card is a bit rough condition wise but I really like it.
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David

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Posted 06/21/2011   02:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you are correct,
he is wearing the St Edwards Crown
and in the background, poking through the light
is the right left hand portion of the "coronation chair"

Here Is Queen Victoria on the same chair.


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The two arms on the side of the crown,
are golden arches and are the insignia of a ruler.
Without them the crown would only remain a coronet.

Henry 5, wore a coronet over his helmet at the battle of Agincourt.
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Posted 06/21/2011   05:28 am  Show Profile Check jubilee's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's a lovely card. Do you think it would like to come to my house to live with these?



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Posted 06/21/2011   05:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cute shoes! and is he wearing a curtain underneath?

:)
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Posted 06/21/2011   05:36 am  Show Profile Check jubilee's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oi! That's my King! A little respect please!
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Posted 06/21/2011   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi rod222, That is very interesting. I looked up coronet and was surprised to see the different types of coronets and the specifics for each one according to rank. I also tried to find out what type of materials the robe was made from but hit a dead end. Any idea?
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Posted 06/21/2011   4:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ermine
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Posted 06/21/2011   5:35 pm  Show Profile Check jubilee's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jubilee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Coronation robes are traditionally made of silk velvet trimmed with ermine
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Posted 06/21/2011   6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Perf14 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I guess the robe cost a mint, hence he was stuck with his mom's curtains for a 'dress' ...looks like he might have borrowed her shoes too!

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Posted 06/21/2011   6:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add fincbob2451 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Kirks and jubilee, I looked up ermine in healdry and it was quite an interesting read. Between that , the crowns and coronets I have learned a good bit today. Thanks to aLL.
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Posted 06/22/2011   04:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Far be it for me to argue with my esteemed colleagues,
but there is a query raised here.

If we are discussing the crown, then the fur is Miniver.

Now I believe that the Peer's robes are actually miniver,
and ermine is only used in a heraldry context,
but I could be wrong.

Both descriptions are of the fur from the Stoat
which is white with a black tail,
it is sewn together to form "miniver" or "ermine"
ie white with black patches or spots.

This is the crown of st edward 1950 circa
and the fur is most definitely classed as "miniver"



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Note: Edward the confessors crown above,
is a copy, made for Charles 2, and which all Kings and Queens
of England have been been crowned since 1661, the original
having been disposed of (melted down) during
the reign of that genocidal dictator Oliver Cromwell.
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Hello, rod222, I am a bit confused. Ermine is the winter coat of the stoat,white fur with a black tail. Miniver is an unspotted white fur of the staot and the stoat are distinguished by the black tip on their tail.Wouldn't the fur on the crown be ermine as it has the black spots?
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Posted 06/22/2011   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
If we are discussing the crown, then the fur is Miniver.


I thought the original question was regarding the ROBE itself, not the fabric of the crown.

Either way, I've learned something

Kirk
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Posted 06/22/2011   4:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kirk,
both materials look the same, I was using the
crown to come from a point of establishment
in that miniver is the description used by officialdom
in the nomenclature of the Crown Jewels.

As David pointed out, it then becomes confusing,
and I don't think we have an answer yet.
What I am suggesting is that Ermine may be a common
reference, but in actual fact be incorrect for the robe.
Miniver may be the correct name, but has become
unpopular in its usage.
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