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Posted 08/13/2011   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Dragons Seng to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Federated Malay States - Tiger stamps, not much imformation, except one of a stamp with a post-marked of the year 1931





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Posted 08/13/2011   9:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dragons Seng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Malay States - portrait of the Sultan of Johor





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Posted 08/13/2011   9:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome Dragons Seng. You've come to the right place to get your questions answered.
But, do you have a question?
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Posted 08/13/2011   9:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looking in my Scotts, the Malaya tigers were issued numerous times from 1900 to 1934.
Your 10c ultra and black is probably an SC#63 from 1923.
1c green SC38 1906-22.
2c green could be SC40 1902-22 or SC52 1922-32.
3c brown SC41 1906-22 or SC55 1922-32.
3c carmine SC42 1909.
4c scarlet SC44 1906-22 or SC56 1922-32.
4c orange SC57 1922-32.
5c brown SC 59 1932.
5c Violet on yellow paper SC58 1922.

The sultans will take some looking for. Hope this helps
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Posted 08/13/2011   9:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The sultans of Jahore
3c green SC104 1925
5c violet and olive green depends on watermark
SC63 wmk 71 1904-08, SC80 wmk 47 or SC90 1918-19
6c violet and red brown SC108 1921-40
The others were all issued 1949-55 in order of denomination 1c to 6c, SC 130, 131,133,134,135
The 10c is interesting I can only find one colour listing, plum, which looks like your second stamp. SC130.
I don't see a listing for a red 10c in this issue.
The others 15c SC140, 20c ultra SC 142, 25c orange and rose lilac SC 143 and 50c ultra and black SC147

I'll keep looking for the other 10c.

Edit - Is the colour variation between the two 10c stamps due to the scan? or is it obvious when they are side by side? I can't find a listing for a red/carmine anywhere. Curious.
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Posted 08/13/2011   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add backroads to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I read that the colour variation in the 10 cent is fairly consistent throughout the Malay States and results from one batch of ink being a lot more water soluble. You can see it actually bleeding through the paper. Aniline Ink (?) I think that was what causes a similar situation in a couple of Canadian Issues.

I shall see if I can dig one out and add it to this.

Nope - Cannot find one! But the stamp is the $1.00 Chateau de Ramesay, #245. And the variation is listed as 245i. Looks much like the ten cent and has the brighter colour and looks, even on a mint stamp, as if it were bleeding through.
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Posted 08/15/2011   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dragons Seng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to Jamesw, backroeds and BAYERN1kreuzer for the vital information. Just went to the National Library to look up for stamps history and wow! still a lot to learn, variety. Errors, misprinted, any extra dot or dent, difference shades of colours, etc. which not supposed to be there. Really respected those who managed to spot the different.

I think I need a 10 inch diameter magnifying glass with ring light .... just joking.
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Posted 08/16/2011   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dragons Seng to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Straits Settlements - British Military Adminstration.

These stamps were issued betweeen 1945 to 1948, overprinted in black or red. Two types of DIE were used, DIE II, the coconut leaves didn't touch the oval circle; while DIE I, the leaves touch the oval circle. Not a complete set.







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Thought it would be nice to show some scans of the Malay Federated States tiger stamps:









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Posted 08/22/2019   06:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add LordInVader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just saw this on a german auction today.
Big Lot, lots of Mints.
They sold for around $16.

The auction itself was missing information. It was described as "Federated States", but nowhere was it mentioned these are Malay stamps...



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Did you win them? Super nice pickup if you did.
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LordInVader

I think you posted the same basic thread in two places.
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Lordinvader,
Please do not cross post.
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A picture is worth a thousand words, so if you are having trouble identifying the various Malay States issues, I have them pictured on my web site with images of the stamps as well as tips on how to identify them. Unfortunately this does not include the Federated Malay States, but you will find the BMA, Singapore and Straits Settlements King George VI issues as well as Johore, Kedan, Kelantan, Malacca, Negri Sembilan, Pahang, Penang, Perak, Perlis, Selangor, and Trengganu from the 1920's thru the early 1950's. Use this link to see a listing of the various pages.

http://www.kgvistamps.com/KGVIStamp...leIndex.html
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I don't have a page set up for the Federated Malay States (FMS), but I do enjoy buying a used lot and sorting them. So here are some things I have learned about this issue.

If you buy an unsorted lot of FMS tiger stamps, start by turning them over and determining the watermark. There are three options: Crown CA - which was used beginning in 1901, Multiple Crown CA - which was used beginning in 1904, and Multiple Script CA - which was used beginning in 1922. See the images below of the various watermarks in the order mentioned above as you will see them looking at the back of the stamps. I like to put them on black paper it really helps see the watermark without having to use fluid.



Once you have sorted the FMS tigers by watermarks, start looking at the color of the stamps. If you are using the Stanley Gibbons Catalogue, you will notice that there are a lot of color shades mentioned. You will see various shades of grey, black, red, purple, brown, and other colors for the different values. These are representative of the numerous times the stamp was printed during the course of production. I like to get a number of copies and look at one value of the same watermark at a time to get a feel for the color. There are specialist publications beyond even the colors listed by Gibbons, so you can go as deep or shallow as you like into this area.

I would start with used stamps for this issue. They are readily available and pretty low cost. Buy the mint stamps later if you are really into this issue. It's a lot of fun, so enjoy it.

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