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Posted 11/26/2011   12:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nigelc wrote:
C&H/Ld - 7,14,10/6,7 - Chance & Hunt Ltd, London EC3

T&Co.- 7,14,8,4, - Tuck & Co Ltd, Lower Abbey St, Dublin

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Thanks for this information Nigel, that is fantastic! I have made notes in my Downey Head collection and will do some more research as time permits!

Would you guys mind sharing the title(s) of any references you are using? I'd love to add them to my wants list for my library.

Have a Good One,

Skilo54
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Edited by skilo54 - 11/26/2011 12:07 am
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Posted 11/26/2011   03:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Skilo,

I use the 8th Edition of the "Tomkins Catalogue of Identified G.B. Perfins" published by the Perfin Society in 1998.

The latest edition is the 10th published by the society in 2004:

http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfins.../tintro.html

Each edition has many more perfins listed as perfins gradually become identified (i.e. the organisations that used them). This catalogue does not include the thousands of known but unidentified UK perfins.

The stats in my 8th edition says that it includes listings for just under 8,200 identified perfins (with one or more users) out of a total of around 22,900 perfin patterns known.

There is a also a series of catalogues called "The New Illustrated Catalogue of GB Perfins" which illustrate each known UK perfin:

http://www.angelfire.com/pr/perfins...icat/ni.html

According to this Perfin Society page:

"There are two versions of this catalogue:

The "silhouettes" version contains only illustrations of the dies and is best used in combination with the Tomkins catalogue of identified perfins.

The "details" version not only illustrates each die but also includes details of periods and places of use, users where known, and which stamps the perfin is known used on."

These are published separately for each initial letter in the perfin so there's a Silhouette catalogue for all perfins beginning with the latter "A" and a Details catalogue all perfins beginning with the latter "A" etc.

Not all these catalogues have been publised yet but a lot have. I'm afraid I don't have any of them.

I hope this helps.
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Posted 11/26/2011   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Super, Thanks Nigel! I had checked the angelfire site before, and now know with your referral that these are the folks to get in contact with! This thread has planted a seed and I feel my interests my be evolving..... I will still limit myself to the GB Kings though

I have a few Downey Head Perfins scanned that I will add to the thread, from Left to Right:

gb NSW, gb CZAR, gb C&H Ld, gb V.F., gb G.H.P. &Co, already shown, gb unidentified so far



Row 2 from Left to Right:

gb S.S, gb weird little symbol, gb V.P., gb KLd, gb B, gb BP CoLd



Thanks again for letting us know about those catalogues, truly appreciate it and all the other information shared on this thread!

Have a Good One,

Skilo54

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Posted 11/26/2011   4:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Braveheart to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple from me ....



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Posted 11/26/2011   6:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You must be very alert with perfins,
check your "NSW", it possibly is MSM ?

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Posted 11/26/2011   8:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

gb BASS - Bass, Ratcliff & Gretton Ltd, Brewers, Burton-on-Trent, Staffs

gb CZAR - C. Czarnikov Ltd (now Czarnikow Group Ltd)

gb DrB - Dresdner Bank in London

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Posted 11/26/2011   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few more to add to the list.

Unfortunately, I can't contribute anything with regard to their affiliations.

I tried not to include any that were listed on Rod's last update but one or two may have slipped by me.

Also have included several "mis-perfins" with the hope that you'll be able to decipher them from the impressions left by the pins.

H&S; DHE; R&C/B; C/CS/C; S&B/LD (small D)



AG; CS/L/SA; JB/H; BUNN(?); NOW



WCR; WB; JF(?); LT/CO (small O); LR/O



J.C/L; 1; (?); SAGE; (?)



JBP; S/&/S; S.A.; C/G/L



ECHO (Changed from "SCHO(?)" AND "2CHO"); (?); NB/&C; C.W.F.; H (bowed uprights)



F&M; (?)/&C; JS; WB; K




EA/L; LB/M; CC; SC; SB/C

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Edited by tomiseksj - 12/08/2011 5:49 pm
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Posted 11/27/2011   12:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
SCHO (?);

nah :) surely that has to be a "2" 2CHO
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Posted 11/27/2011   07:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tomiseksj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe you're correct -- I'll change it in the original post and remove the "(?)".



EDIT: So much for putting my faith in Rod (see Kobo's post below). I've changed it, yet again, in the original post.
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Edited by tomiseksj - 12/08/2011 5:48 pm
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Posted 12/07/2011   04:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Kobo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you will find it is 'ECHO' not '2CHO'. A few blind pins in the E. ECHO is the name of a local newspaper in several UK towns.
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Posted 12/07/2011   04:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is everyone's feeling/opinion on blind perfins? Remove them or leave them as is? My luck somedays I would try and attempt to clean the holes using my lethal tongs and the stamp would rip, that is why I am too nervous to try.

Just wonderin'

Skilo54
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Posted 12/07/2011   04:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And a big 'Welcome Aboard" to Kobo!

Nice to meet ya,

Skilo54
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Posted 12/07/2011   07:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
I think you will find it is 'ECHO' not '2CHO'. A few blind pins in the E. ECHO is the name of a local newspaper in several UK towns.




Bravo!
I think your correct...well done you.

I believe you leave blind punctures, we are collectors,
and students of the postal system, not engineers or
manufacturers. (my opinion of course)
others will disagree.

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Posted 12/08/2011   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ECHO - 10,10,11,12 (diagonally) - is from The North of England Newspaper Company Limited, Darlington, publisher of the "Northern Echo" and "Stanley News".
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Posted 12/09/2011   04:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add skilo54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another one for the database. Unfortunately I have no information on 'HH', I can only add the scan to the compendium.



Want to read the postmark? Here it is rotated for your convenience including a close up of the inverted year slugs of the date:





Off to work, have a good one,

Skilo54
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