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Posted 05/15/2018   11:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We have two clubs: accumulation and collection(organization)
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Posted 05/15/2018   12:48 pm  Show Profile Check jimwentzell's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jimwentzell to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm so happy to have found this thread....count me in as a 100,000 member (or close to it, at least). I used to "take inventory" (physically count every different stamp, every year). That worked OK when I was a younger collector, with only a couple albums.

I fondly remember my first two albums (German-made stock books, the 24-page variety, not Lighthouse as they were pricier.). I had all the stamps in alphabetical order, and when I was ten or twelve years old with a limited budget it was relatively easy for me to re-arrange the whole collection. This was before Vario/Hagner pages!

After collecting for three years, around 1973, when I was fourteen I was so proud of myself for having attained the humongous number of 1,000 face-different stamps from the world! Once I got a job and started earning a little money, I joined several approval companies and my collection expanded greatly.

From memory here are my (rough) totals face-different. I didn't count Cinderellas, as I really wasn't familiar with them yet; nor did I count Christmas seals, fiscals, etc.

1971 (1 year of collecting) 400 different worldwide
1972 600 different
1973 1,000 different
1975 6,000 different
1978 11,000 different
1980 16,000 different
1990 24 albums (some Scott Country type, others stock book type)
average of 1,000 per album that equates to 24,000
2000 40 albums perhaps 30,000 face- different
2018 110 albums perhaps 60,000 face-different


I am currently reading this thread and am only up to about 2014 entries so bear with me while I finish reading; then I will add some of my more accurate inventories (I don't count total stamps anymore, except by country-specific albums, such as 2,405 Austria as an example)

I find that as the better stamps are harder to find I am buying larger lots or better collections. For example, I have purchased seven (7) different Luxembourg albums over the years; each time improving the quality of the album. (For inventory purposes I only count the most-complete albums; I have multiple albums for the same country, esp. USA, Germany, etc.)

The "best" album presentation-wise or quality-wise gets filled cannibalizing the less-desirable albums.

My preference is for Lighthouse Hingeless or country-specific Scott Specialty albums; some countries, for instance South America other than Brazil, I have housed in rather shabby albums desperately needing an "upgrade"

Whatever collections I win at auction (or sometimes buy from a fellow collector or see at stamp bourses) are usually kept intact except for what I need to improve/fill my "best" album for that country.

Those other six Luxembourg albums I have will be sold or traded at our local club, or put online for sale.

That's my 2 cents worth for now on this subject, as I am way too busy working lately to actually count any stamps!!! :-). (But obviously not too busy to chime in on the subject)

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Posted 05/15/2018   2:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've also been reading this thread with intetest, having, fairly recently, made the switch from single country collecting to worldwide. I have no idea how close I'll wind up coming to 100k as of right now. Up until this point I'd only really been a worldwide accumulator. Basically just stashing worldwide stamps in envelopes and the like, that come my way in collections I find. I do have a half-hearted Big Blue album that I've been adding to for about 30 years, but not on a regular basis, and I've never bothered to count anything.
Last August I purchased a large, unorganized, worldwide acculumulation, mostly in the same shape as my own, but twice as big, which prompted me to look into a serious effort at organization.
I bought a Steiner disc and started to print pages and mount stamps. As of right now I have 17 countries mounted, and a total of, just under 9000 stamps. Only 4 of the countries I would consider as "major" countries, those being Austria, Belgium, Spain & Colonies and Great Britain, so that's where the bulk of the 9k is.
Like I said I have no clue of my accumulations will amount to 100k in album form, but it will be a fun journey.
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Posted 05/15/2018   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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My preference is for Lighthouse Hingeless or country-specific Scott Specialty albums;


I approve!

Absolutely love the design of the Lighthouse hingeless and the old Scott Specialty. Got some old Minkus albums recently as part of a lot and found them so ugly.

And that's a useful distinction on accumulation vs. collection. Have an unknown mound of German stamps that need some TLC and to be placed in albums. Won't count them as part of my collection until they find a permanent (or at least less temporary) home.
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Posted 05/15/2018   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
just looking at what some collectors say is in their collections on one of the main internet catalog sites, it would seem to indicate there are a LOT of 100K+ collections around.
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Posted 05/16/2018   04:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe in that Gene. I think the 100k mark is an easily obtainable goal for general WW collectors (like myself), not distinguish in any way. Passing 200k takes a bit more devotion, still not exclusive in terms of cost restrictions for average man on the street. Going much beyond that it starts requiring resources most can't afford, both time-wise and financial. However, if stretched over a let's say 40 year time span, even 200k is achievable for most.

How many of you have needed to build a new house/expand your house or RE-organized rooms etc to provide sufficient space for it all??
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Posted 05/16/2018   06:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I think the 200K club means spending $200K to build an addition.
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Posted 05/16/2018   08:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That level of 200,000 all different stamps is a very high bar to reach . Very few ever cross that number .There will always be those who come on a chat room and make claims of reaching that level but when you ask to visit and view it,that's when the dancing around starts .




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Posted 05/16/2018   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's say someone wanted to collect worldwide, right up to current issues, what l percentage of completeness would 200k represent?
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Posted 05/16/2018   09:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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How many of you have needed to build a new house/expand your house or RE-organized rooms etc to provide sufficient space for it all??


Hmmm...??? I'm using 4 shelf meters to house 115K stamps in stockbooks, and I would assume that 200K would fit within 10 shelf meters. That would not cover even one wall of my "stamp cave" (just a standard sized apartment room that I use for leisure & work). And even half-a-million stamps should fit somewhat easily into single room... So I don't think housing worldwide collections would be a real issue unless a person lives really tight in the first place.


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Let's say someone wanted to collect worldwide, right up to current issues, what l percentage of completeness would 200k represent?


Depending on the comparison point (i.e. stamp catalogue - Scott, Michel, SG, Yvert major numbers)... 25-32%.

If you start counting varieties/minor-numbers, then the percentage drops steeply to 10% (+/- few percentage units).

So it is really not that difficult to reach big numbers. The biggest limitation out there is time. If I could "devote" my life to nothing but stamps, then building massive collection would be easy. But for some reason I still prefer to hang out with family with wife & kids too

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Posted 05/16/2018   11:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steevh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In theory huge totals like 100,000 or 200,000 are becoming ever easier to reach. You only have to look at the expanding size of the all-world stamp catalogues. The Gibbons version is now about 6,000 pages, with I guess more than 600,000 stamps.

Having said that, I'm not in any great hurry to get my hands on the 2-300,000 issued in the last 20 years. I don't really want to have a lot of shelf space taken up by albums of Guyana etc. The communist-era issuance policies of the Eastern European countries seem quite tame by modern standards.
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Posted 05/16/2018   11:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just wanted to see what the upper limits to collecting worldwide stamps but over time I started to specialise . Over the years I started to bump heads with these new people coming into the market place at stamp auctions who we now call eBay SELLERS ,they were buying all the large lots and end of the auction bulk lots .The one area they stayed away from is the highly specialized collections .

These highly specialized collections were diffcult to catalog to a standard catalog. So they stayed away from them . Many of these were well written up and was easy to put them into my collection .I enjoy expanding them and adding new material to these collection . The learning curve of studying these collections is through the roof as far as philatelic knowledge .
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I should of added a few words about how much more expensive it is to build a worldwide collection with eBay around . I build my collection before eBay became popular and you could fill the back of a SUV for $300.00 to $500.00 at any major stamp auction firm with buying those box lots . Today with NYSTAMPS and a dozen others you would be paying three to four times more . It was a difficult time in 2001 to 2003 to accept the fact there were more bidders and prices were now much higher for the stuff I concidered my playground .
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Posted 05/16/2018   2:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steevh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I find the best thing about being an all-world collector is that you can afford to pass on anything that isnt a bargain. Just buy all the countries that no one else in the room is collecting that day. Sure I'd love to improve my Commonwealth collection, but in the meantime I'm happy with Eastern Europe, Africa, South America or whatever else is being ignored.
But for sure eBay has driven up the prices for what used to be considered unsellable material. Even Trucial States and Equatorial Guinea are making money these days.
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Posted 05/16/2018   3:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's my thinking as well. In the past, as a single country soecialist, I would routinely leave stamp shows empty-handed. Now, as a WW collector, you don't really have to worry about it. Just look for the bargains.
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