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Romania : 1930 To 1931

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Posted 11/22/2012   01:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add rod222 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
1930
King Charles (Carol) 2nd.
1930-1940
8th June 1930
Date of Accession.

Establishing Authenticity of Overprint

Genuine Characteristics......
Yellow arrows L to R
1....45 degree slope on 1 of 1930
2....Vertical spine of 9 of 1930
3....Fat 0 of 1930

Green arrow : Genuine has a "Closed 3"
What is a "closed 3"






Any readers that think they see a forgery, please speak up!

[A] Set of 5 Unwatermarked.
3 x Typography
2 x Photogravure
Perf 13.5 x 14
Perf 13.5



30 bani Terracotta (Looks like forged Overprint)

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Posted 11/22/2012   05:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rohumpy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, I think the term closed 3 refers to the top and bottom or the 3 coming around and making it almost look like an 8.

I am talking in general and not specifically about this Romanian stamp.
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all your overprints look fine to me,it was a poorly done overprint .
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Rod,

I hope you didn't pay anymore than 5c. for the 30b.,

Okka
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Thanks all for your opinions.
Thanks Rohumpy, that was my take as well.

It shows up here.
I believe both are forgeries, but the "open 3" shows up well

Focus on the shape of the "8" and the "3"

I have a theory, that in the genuine Opts
the "fat 0" is just ever so slightly (perhaps half a mm)
below the base line of "1930"

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-image...omania1.gif/

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Unwatermarked
Photogravure.
Frame size : 18.5 x 24 mm



WANT LIST :
25b typo opt wmk wavy lines
7L 50 photo opt wmk wavy lines
(Scott 368 and 368A) Unused
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Overprints on REDUCED format issues.
Frame size 18mm x 23mm
Perf : 14.5 x 14
Photogravure.



The 7L50 here looks suspiciously like a cracked cliche
running from top of frame.


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1930



King Carol 2
Designer : Ludovic Bessarab.
Basic Set of 32 stamps
(I have included the 1932 set on differing wmk)

CV $563

Perf 13.5, 14, 14x x 13.5.

Watermark 1930


Watermark 1932







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1930 Imperf
Quantity : 3000 sets.

Thin white paper, light yellowish gum.
Watermark 1930 [Crown over PTT ]

Exist in Blocks of 4, Full Set $1,200.

Small plate EFO on the 1 Leu.





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1930
Air Stamps
King Carol 2
No watermark
Perf 13.5

Stanley Gibbons quotes green / azure

What is azure? hue of green, sfaty paper



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1930
Postage Due
Typographed.
Presumed : No watermark
White Paper with Accession overprint.

Perf 13.5 x 14
Perf 13.5 ( 6 Lei only)

1 Leu
2 Lei
3 lei
6 Lei

Students may note the font for ROMANIA is different on the 2 Lei
The right leg of the "M" is more vertical, and the final "A"
is a different shape.
I have no idea of the significance, will post if I find out.









Forged Overprint.
1. No 45 degree bevel to top of 1 in 1930
2. curved spine of 9 in 1930
3. Open 3 of 1930

In an "Open 3" the arms of the 3 are cut vertically,
"Closed" they are cut horizontally, or near to it.


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1930
Pentru Sinistrati (National Disaster Assistance)
White wove paper.
No Watermark
Perf 11.5

CV $5
Exist Block of 4 ($18)

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1931
Postage Due
Perf 13.5
2 Lei


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possible postal forgery -----center stamp ?

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Postal forgery on a postage due? That can't be common...
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Posted 11/25/2012   6:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not sure at this stage Floortrader,
the 2 Lei is the subject of a strange format
perhaps a new cliche was made.
It seems to me the only one where the IA of ROMANIA is not joined.

Romaniastamps.com do not mention it that I can see.

I have purchased the 1974 catalogue ($46), just awaiting
its arrival from Romania, we can see what they have to offer.

I don't think the stamp has a forgery listed, just the opt.




Floortrader, you have a known variety,
I think I have one as well, so I may be able to compare mine
for format

"Missing dot"

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