Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Stamp Community Forum
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Southington, CT Precancel Question  
 

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
12128 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   09:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Message
I happened to come across this document when web surfing the internet recently. Can anyone tell me if this means that such postmarks from Southington, CT are really precancels or is it one of those areas where there is really "no way to tell" since the same markings would likely have been used on other pieces of mail?

Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
United States
2733 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Fun & Interesting, The Postmaster seemed pretty reserved with Mr Ball!
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
87 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe these are the electro-plate the postmaster was speaking of, so his "allowance" was granted at some point these are one the Perf 12 1922 series, so one has to ask where was the device in 1935?

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Bedrock Of The Community
United States
12128 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If I read the Postmaster's letter correctly, he indicated that he had the device in 1935, but Washington would not give him the required allowance needed to have the precancel professionally printed, so the alternative was to use the handstamps shown.

As I suggested earlier, it seems to me that the use of those "handstamps" may have effectively created a precancel that served the purposes needed for that year, but for precancel collectors there would be no way to identify if those "handstamps" were legitimately used as a precancel unless the example were collected on cover. In other words, an example of a stamp soaked off paper with the above postmarks would be impossible to identify as a legitimate precancel. Probably the very reason why the PSS catalogs do not recognize it as a listed variety (or varieties).
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
87 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Oregonian to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shame on me, I did read that the wrong way. Now I wonder why the PO lost it's "allowance" and resorted to a handstamp provincial, and I wonder if the precancels catalog Gods would use this letter to justify listing it as a legit precancel and not a provincial?
Mike
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
United States
2112 Posts
Posted 03/01/2013   3:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Gods [aka the gatekeepers] will not allow it in the PSS T&T catalog [aka the BIBLE].
One problem with it is that they were not used exclusively for precancelling - and that is usually the rationale for excluding these locally improvised cancellers. The fact that it EVER was used in a precancelling context is not sufficient.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!
New Forum TopicsRecently Active Forum Topics
  2017 Chicagopex revenue acquisitions. Part 1: stamps (MANY IMAGES)
  Do You Like KGV or Roos in Multiples Too?
  Need help with this Havanna (sp) AL Cover and 3 cent Plate 0 usage
  Ad banner problem with Stamps Catalogue
  Washington-Franklin coil pairs from my recent project now on eBay
  Rare China 1897 Scott # 33 BL 8c On 6c PSE VG 50 MNH Hong Kong/Taiwan
  Aomic Bombs End WWII labels; look like US 1995 50th anniversary of WWII stamps
  Dual-sided & perked U.S. Customs Form w Serial No.not found online or in U.S. Scott Specialized
  2018 Newfoundland Specialized Catalogue
  Help with valuation of Newfoundland NFR2 & NFR3
  Slovakia - 2017 new issues:
  My profile photo - how to add it:
  Are These 2 Stanps Belgian Precancels?
  Compound perforations and control perfin on Schermack/Scott #392
  KGVI Black bars question
  10 cent Virgin Island Revenue Stamp circa 1958
  Airmail "Stamps" help
  Norway potato rationing instructions from WW2
  Strange Hinge Style, Any Info?
  Ukraine 1918 cover from Odessa
  Is this a 17 can someone help
  Azerbaijan to USA cover
  Nov. 24 QUIZ: How's Your Eye for Detail?
  Are these stamps authentic?
  Show your Commonwealth KGVI era and pictorial sets

  Barbed Wire
  Update to the unique 1938 cracked plate series
  Please Help to Identify Japanese Revenues & Documents 1890's?
  Show us your Turkey's on stamps
  Let's see your most recently purchased stamps
  2017 Chicagopex revenue acquisitions. Part 1: stamps (MANY IMAGES)
  John Ash Imprints - show Yours
  Today's mystery - E.E.B. overprint
  Hanukkah stamps issued today (November 14th) and immediately recalled
  Ad banner problem with Stamps Catalogue
  Compound perforations and control perfin on Schermack/Scott #392
  Coil Test Strips
  Aomic Bombs End WWII labels; look like US 1995 50th anniversary of WWII stamps
  Do You Like KGV or Roos in Multiples Too?
  Chart for Homemade Steiner Pages
  I inherited my Uncle's huge collection of stamps, thought you might enjoy seeing some of it
  old japanese stamps used.
  Need help with this Havanna (sp) AL Cover and 3 cent Plate 0 usage
  Australia Meter cutouts Overstamped Specimen
  Japanese Revenue - Any info appreciated!
  Is this technically superb?
  Need your help on this 1 cent Washington, Franklinen stamp please.
  Airmail "Stamps" help
  Postally used 94P5... to cert or not to cert...
  Any interest in world Postal Stationery?

Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2017 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2005 - 2017 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.41 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05