2012 Four Flags Varieties

Now that I look at it some more, it seems the horizontal die cut is a little short on the left side. I don't know how they apply the die cuts: all at once, or separate passes (vertically and horizontal). There doesn't seem to have proper alignment or engagement in the UL corner.

Robert

Wt1, you are showing what is called a "cobra die-cut". It is supposed to be there, only if the cutting knives did their work properly ( that is, were adjusted correctly ), they would be a bit less obvious. Also, on top of the cobra on the upper left side a "bridge" is showing. A bridge is where the two adjacent rolls were connected before they were separated at the post office.

Peter

I should have mentioned that an excellent write-up of these die cut varieties is available from the Plate Number Coil Collectors Club
(PNC3). It is called "Avery Die Cut Varieties", and is 29 loose leaf pages with color illustrations. Ordering info can be found on the PNC3 website, www.PNC3.org

Peter

Just want to point out that the coil stamp under discussion is a Sennett product, so may not be covered in the "Avery Die Cut Varieties" publication. You may want to ask before ordering. Email catalog@pnc3.org.

Wow! How do you know it is a Sennett product? I do not see a plate number! Peter

Look back to dlambert1's post about these coil stamps and it will explain: Avery coils are perf 8.5; Ashton Potter perf 9.5; and Sennett perf 11, which makes the coils relatively easy to tell apart.

The example I previously posted (Freedom) is therefore a Sennett product, more specifically, Scott #4639.

Peter - you can tell them apart even without gauging them. Only Sennett has the long slanted / or \ at top and bottom (or entirely at top or bottom if the cutting is off a bit). AP has a long vertical | and Avery has a very short vertical |.

I decide to bump this thread instead of starting a new one.

The major variety of Scott 4641-4644 is listed as overall tagging.

A minor variety, 4641a-4644a, states it is prephosphored coated paper with surface tagging showing a solid appearance.

I attached a scan of my booklet. Given there is a gap (looks purple) between tagging then
I would guess this is the minor variety but asking for confirmation.

I would describe this as large block tagging but not sure the pure definitions.

It's definitely the overall tagged variety. There would be no dark gap if the paper was prephosphored. The phosphor coating is on top of the ink, which is another clue that the stamps are overall tagged.

Robert

Thanks!

Angore, that is a great picture. May I ask how you took that? It almost looks like a scan!

Peter

I took it with a Nikon D600 DLSR with a Tamron 90mm F2.8 macro lens on a copy stand with the Raytech Versalume UV lamp. The exposure was f2.8 at 0.5 sec at ISO 3200. I did it in a hurry so notice the focus is slightly out on the left since I did not have it a parallel. I just need to square it up the next time and increase the depth of field slightly.

Al

Angore. Thank you very much for the info! I will make good use of it.

Peter

concur it is the overall version (both because of the gap and the haze overthe printing - on prephos the ink stands out sharper).

edited to add - the image os so good, you can see the grid of phosphor dots, another indication it is overall.

One of my goals was to take images of various issues in the various tagging combinations for reference.