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Anyone Collect St. Pierre And Miquelon?

 
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Posted 06/28/2013   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I'm looking at the stamps of St. Pierre and Miquelon as a new collecting interest. Recently bid on some lots and was surprised at how quickly the bids rose. I've just ordered an SG catalogue and will refrain from bidding until I have learned more. However, does anyone else on the Board collect this Country/Colony and can you suggest why the stamps seem to be so popular? Who is a good supplier of this material?

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Posted 06/28/2013   11:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a few covers, as they fall in the Newfoundland sometime. It is a great question, and my guess would be that the popularity is driven by limited supply and unique nature of this tiny ecosystem (a French island, offshore from a British colony, now Canada, in the North Hemisphere?).

Might be similar for somewhere like Isle of Man. Or New Hebrides.

Give us some images.
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Posted 06/28/2013   11:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Gilles le timbre to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
St-Pierre et Miquelon are France's territory
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Posted 06/30/2013   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, of course it is part of France--just closely located near Newfoundland (about 20 kilometers according to Google maps)

So, unless I am mistaken many of the covers would have Newfoundland or other province or Canadian cancels.

Like this one from my collection, a First Flight Cover:

Newfoundland #262 + 2 french Canadian stamps; FFC (NSSC-FF44a,AAMC-FF59a); from St Pierre Miquelon Jun 21, 1939 to St John's by ferry then via Pan Am Clipper from "St Johns GPO" Jun 27 to Brooklyn USA on red/blue "Par Avion" envelope;B/S NY, NY July 1 at 10pm

Anyone know the Scott listing for these two stamps?


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Posted 07/01/2013   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have just had a look at my 2009 Scott's Catalogue.

They are Scott's# 205 CD82 1.25fr carmine lake Mint-$1.90. Used-$1.60
Scott's# 206 CD82 2.25fr ultra Mint-$2.00, Used-$1.60

I hope this helps Tommy.

Roos
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Posted 07/01/2013   07:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tommy
That is a great cover but I'd have trouble deciding which album to put it in - Newfoundland or St. Pierre (that is, if I ever get enough St. Pierre and Miquelon material to start an album).
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Posted 07/01/2013   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tommy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Roos,

That was exactly what I was looking for, many thanks.

Two follow on questions: Does it indicate a value for a cover? And does it provide the first day of issue for these two stamps? I'm curious whether it was a philatelic first day cover of those two stamps. From a Newfoundland perspective, it is a First Flight Cover because the double circle cancel at St Johns on June 27, 1939 was the first flight of this Pan Am clipper from St Johns to New York. And so, I am curious whether Mr Dworetsky of Brooklyn had a friend or family member in St Pierre who created a double FFC/FDC by design. Probably not but any information from the community would be tres chic.

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Posted 07/01/2013   7:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Roos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unfortunately Scott's doesn't have a value for a cover.

The day of issue for these stamps is 10 May, 1939 and are Perf. 12˝x12


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Posted 02/08/2014   12:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BreefmackUSA to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Looks like I'm a little late to this party - but yes, I branched out from U.S., to Canada, and then to St. Pierre & Miquelon a couple of years ago! I am using a Lindner hingeless album and after adding my 2012 supplement it is up to three binders.

I really enjoy their stamps, because they have not given-in to the modern concept of self-adhesive "stickers" with serpentine die-cuts yet, and 99% of their stamps are water-activated with good ol'e fashioned perforations - and, as an added bonus, they don't scrimp on their printing methods with a large percentage of even their latest stamps being engraved! Those that aren't are usually exquisitely detailed and colorful. There are also the common issues on some of the definitive series which are French designs, but even those are interesting. (In my opinion)

Here are a few samples:













































...most of my newer scans are too big to upload and I'll have to spend some time resizing them, but I hope you can see what I mean by the above.

Al
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Posted 02/10/2014   1:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NBSTAMPER to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi BreefmackUSA
Thank you for your insightful comments on St. Pierre & Miquelon and for the colorful images; a nice cross-section of the Colony's stamps. I continue to slowly add to my collection.
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Posted 02/13/2014   5:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Penguins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all,
Here are a few more for the collection.
Ron

















Nice stamps but I don't think I could handle living there, a bit of a change from sunny Queensland brrrr.
Ron
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Posted 02/13/2014   6:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, thanks all for sharing. I did not realize it was close to NFLD.
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Posted 02/13/2014   7:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm also late to the party. St. P & M. are the sole remnant of the French North American empire; also known as New France. The French lost everything else via the Treaty of Paris in 1763; which ended the French & Indian war, also known as the Seven Years War; with the remainder of the empire being ceded to the British. As an aside, this was was the truly first world war, being fought on multiple continents. St. P. & M. is also noteworthy for being the first French overseas territory to declare for the Free French in World War II.

Several months ago, I created a North America album, within my worldwide, 1840-roughly 1965; Scott International collection. Of course, the primary components are US and territories, Canada & provinces, and Mexico. St. P. & M. is included. My collection of St. P. & M.is modest in size. I hope to add items in the months ahead, primarily through the APS stamp store (real friends don't let friends do stamps on eBay ;-) ).

As another provider, I recommend D & P Stamps in Chula Vista, CA. I have used them primarily for adding to my collection of Portuguese colonies. However, I think they also do French colonials.
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Posted 02/13/2014   9:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BreefmackUSA to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice covers Penguin!

The first one has one of SP&M's signature formats: the "triptych design", where there is a three part image that consists of two stamps to the left and right and a non-stamp label in the center. They have issued quite a few of these in the recent years. They all are line engraved. This is my favorite:




Here are details of the three sections:








The connected triptych is about 145mm wide.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but As far as I know they are a philatelic phenomenon unique to SP&M.

(that was way easier to type than it would be to say! )


Al

...and "hello" Climber Steve - Long time no post at! Good info on the history!
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Posted 01/25/2022   2:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BreefmackUSA to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just thought I would bring this old thread back from the dead, in case anyone would be interested in seeing or showing some newer issues.

"Thoroughly modern Marianne"s:





SPM Expo 2014 - SPM stamps awarded Large Gold in Thailand:





...trying to keep up through 2020 via la Poste!

Al
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Posted 01/27/2022   12:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BreefmackUSA to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here are a few screenshots of my SP&M Collection scans via Windows Explorer. At last count, I've got 1124 stamps in 3 Lindner Volumes. Still waiting on my 2021 Supplements!

Regular Postage:









Semi-Postals:


Air Mail:


Some Postage Dues:


...and Parcel Posts:


Just curious - am I the only one left doing these? LOL




Al
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