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Posted 01/03/2014   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks warrehouse. I have seen the dated control on many of my precancels. Can I assume they affect the value significantly?
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Posted 01/03/2014   09:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As a general rule, dating reduces the value of bureau printed precancels. A scarce bureau can be reduced 50-75% by having a date applied. Bureau collectors like nice clean cancels.
Most bureau's have minimal 'value' - so the dating has no material affect, and for sure the variety of dates adds a whole new perspective to the chase - hence collectability.
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Posted 10/15/2014   8:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A new favorite. If nothing else The San Francisco California seems to have been nicely struck. Wonder why they didn't abbreviate the place name.


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Posted 10/16/2014   7:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JanS to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I enjoy that SF precancel style, too -- something very satisfying about the tall, narrow letters and the way it fills the stamp (on a well-struck copy like yours).

I hesitate to post a favorite right now ... it would have been my Magnolia, AR, probably ... alas.

But in general I enjoy anything well-centred on a 2c (bright pink) or 3c (bright purple) Prexie. It's a girl thing.

Edit: or on a yellow-orange 6c airmail (C1).
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Edited by JanS - 10/16/2014 7:37 pm
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Posted 10/16/2014   8:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although this example isn't mine, it has always been one of my favorite "fancy" precancels:

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Posted 10/16/2014   11:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wt1: Your very pretty Kitty Hawk PC gives insight into what we're losing with the fussy rules for Mailer's Postmarks. Cheers,
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Posted 10/17/2014   08:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampfan9 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That Kitty Hawk is gorgeous, and most likely far too pricey for my economic station. At least through this forum every day I can see scans of my dream possessions.
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Edited by stampfan9 - 10/17/2014 09:00 am
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Posted 10/17/2014   10:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A couple of those Kitty Hawk precancels were recently sold on eBay for between $20 and $30. Expensive for precancels but not completely out of reach for someone with specific interest in them:

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odk...awk&_sacat=0

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Posted 10/17/2014   10:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just to clarify, the Kitty Hawk markings are not authentic precancels or even post office products. They are a privately made. You should be able to find them for under 10$ if you are patient. From the Cummings catalog of fake precancels:
"Souvenirs"
Several names have been associated with these items. One was Frank Wertheim of Jackson Heights, NY. Most often reference has been to Roessler, the noted dealer in Aerophilately, whose reputation took quite a beating the last years. He seems to have run ads offering these.
Blocks exist. Fairly common, but can be high priced because of demand from airmail collectors. The Beacon airmail is very scarce compared to the other two stamps.
Known on:
Aeronautics: 2, 2 invert, 5, 5 invert
Beacon: invert
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Edited by chasa - 10/17/2014 10:32 pm
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Posted 10/17/2014   11:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wt1 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I learned something new! I didn't know the Kitty Hawk "precancel" was a "fake"! Seems like awfully high prices for it on the secondary market under those circumstances, but I guess collectors will pay up if they want it bad enough.
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Posted 10/23/2014   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rumb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
269 pre is the first precanels I aquired.


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