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Posted 09/17/2014   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Terence Collins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Scotzm puts it well. My granddaughter is just starting a BSc Hons degree in human biology at University of Glasgow. She chose this University not because it is free, she is an English National and has to pay by student loan, but because of the University's high reputation for sciences. If she was of Scottish nationality her tuition would be free. She is over the moon at being accepted by the fourth oldest University in the UK (1451).

A recent debate on Scottish Independence revealed that the saving Scotland would make from not having to contribute to the cost of the UK nuclear defence program would be enough to finance their new National Health service, care of the elderly, and provide free education to degree level for all young people. The best investment any nation can make in its future is the education of its children. Why the UK Government cannot see this and do the same is beyond me. Being of part Scots decent I suppose I am biased, but I hope they get their independence. I wish them well. I might even move to Scotland.

Terry
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Posted 09/18/2014   02:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
...an English National and has to pay by student loan

This is unfortunately true at the moment. From a limited budget allocated to Scotland from the UK Treasury we give free university education to Scottish nationals and EU students too but a quirk in the legislation means other UK students can be charged. If Independence comes then ALL UK students studying in Scotland will be funded. It is proposed that this can be funded from not contributing to the new UK nuclear weapons and from opening up the West coast of Scotland to oil exploration (vast reserves are thought to be there but no exploration is permitted due to the Faslane nuclear submarine depot being on that coast).
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Posted 09/18/2014   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kirks to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys for all the feedback.

Since today is the day, I guess we'll know tomorrow. I'm embarrassed to admit it's not big news here in the USA, but I've been reading and following along as best I can. NPR has been covering the story; and of course, I watch BBC America.
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Posted 09/18/2014   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cursus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here in Catalonia, we're following very closely Scotland's great day. We hope that they'll go ahead on their bet towards independence and look forward to follow them soon. Saorsa don Alba!
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Posted 09/18/2014   11:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kirk, I just got back from NC (Charlotte) and SC, and confirm that there is very little coverage.

Here in Canada it is big news, not only because we are Commonwealth members, but because of the on-going separatist desire in Quebec (where I was born).

There is also a small separatist movement in Alberta, and a party has been formed on Vancouver Island that hopes to secede from British Columbia (as a separate province, not a country).

Not long ago I read about a group that wants to form a nation consisting of British Columbia, Washington state and Oregon, and potentially Hawaii. Cascadia is the proposed name of the country.
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Posted 09/18/2014   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hopefully some information on Scotland and the referendum can be obtained... albeit in a humorous fashion... from this video.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics...-brits-video
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Posted 09/18/2014   10:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add smauggie to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Early reports show that the Nay's have it, but they are only very small population centers. It will be interesting to see how some of the larger districts come out.
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Posted 09/19/2014   07:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
" Oh Flower of Scotland
When will we see
Your likes again" ???

Not in this generation and perhaps not in this lifetime as 2,001,926 people go back to being 90 minute patriots at football matches etc and sing heartily about how we can be that "nation" again.

1,617,989 voted Yes
2,001,926 voted No.

3,623,344 people voted in total (includes invalid votes)

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Posted 09/19/2014   09:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DonSellos to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
1.6 million Scots disappointed today, I'm sure, but I think the majority made the correct decision. It's a tough world for a small country.

Don
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Posted 09/19/2014   10:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As Roseanne Roseannadanna would have said, "Never mind."
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Posted 09/19/2014   10:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"1.6 million Scots disappointed today"

There is a possibility that the whole 3,623,344 people who voted may be disappointed as the pledges given by the three main UK political party leaders committing them to greater devolution for Scotland in the event of a NO vote seems to be unraveling already.
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