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2 Samoa Express Stamps - State, Real? Opinions, Please.

 
 
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Posted 04/11/2015   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add walkabout to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
According to what I've read online - if I have read it correctly, that is - the Two Pence has the earmarks of being a remainder but it's a perf 12 1/2. The Two Shilling has indications of being state 4, but if it is, would it be a remainder or reprint? It has perf 11 3/4.

The only one not in the collection is the Five Shilling so this would be beneficial to classifying the rest.



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Posted 04/11/2015   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Both stamps are State 4, probably either remainder or reprint. Remainders are perf 11. Reprints are perf 11 or 12. It looks like the perforation on your two stamps are not the same? You'll have to measure.
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Posted 04/11/2015   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
khj - Thank you very much. As I mentioned above, the 2s is 11.75 and the 2p is 12.50. The old Scotts I have (1972) says that the State 1, 2 and 3 - it doesn't mention the State 4 - are either perf 12 OR 12.50. That's something that has me going 'hmmmmm' about the stamps.

Oh, and I don't know how true it holds for all of them, but in going over the stamps more closely, I found that the back on the 1p has 'reprint' stamped on it in blue ink - also a perf 11.75. I can't tell if it is original to the issue or a later addition.

Again, thank you for your input.
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Edited by walkabout - 04/11/2015 8:25 pm
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Posted 04/11/2015   11:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tonymacg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to try this link: http://www.stampboards.com/viewtopic.php?t=1576
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Posted 04/12/2015   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add walkabout to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
tonymacg - Thank you for the link. I had come across a couple that were a few years newer and had many of the same folks and stamps, with a number of links. Here are some with good info, too:

http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/s...ecklist.html

http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/p...fournier.jpg

http://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/s....html#bottom

http://goscf.com/t/14569
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Posted 11/04/2019   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ananthveerappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
How about mine?....

something about these stamps don't look right...

I suspect a reprint..


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Posted 11/05/2019   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just in case you didn't notice, this thread is over 4 years old, Tony hasn't been here since last Oct. Might be awhile until a response.
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Posted 11/06/2019   7:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ananthveerappan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
my bad... yep... didn't want to create a new thread and so did a quick search and picked over the recent thread..

Didn't notice the time lapse !!!!!
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Posted 11/07/2019   02:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's okay. Some of us like threads to carry on like this.

https://www.filatelia.fi/forgeries/...express.html
Both look like forgery type 1; compare with sets of images at bottom. See the tiny dots in the SAMOA label band and the placement of the pearls relative to the letters M and O.

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Posted 11/07/2019   05:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Didn't notice the time lapse !


No problem, Moderator Don, suggests we just type "Thread bumped"
and the last post date, to make members aware.

Long informative threads become "catalogues" of information unto themselves.
I also like threads carrying on.
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Edited by rod222 - 11/07/2019 05:58 am
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Posted 11/08/2019   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampwolf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, I have a few of the Samoa Express stamps in my collection but don't go after them and only add them if I stumble across them in a collection. Somewhere along the line I pulled some literature off the interweb about determining genuine issues but got frustrate with it and abandoned the project. I assume all mine are reprints/forgeries and leave it up to my legacy to determine their authenticity. Cheer! Wolf-==-
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