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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 12/04/2021   4:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you again of your advice.

Both are Perf 12. Sc10 Mi7 A has a bent tooth (actually few of them). I will leave it as it is, as the stamp is not mine and I don't want to damage stamps belonging to others.

I didn't pay attention to the bottom of the stamp but I see what you mean. It is in the stamp.

The stamps are in a post card size card that is used for selling stamps.

I was worried that the Sc10 Mi7 B due to poor print quality. Nice to know it is likely to be genuine.
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Posted 12/04/2021   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Next is Scott 11, Michel 8

Any opinion on that?


Sc11 Mi8 A


I see that 1/3 of the stamp is torn off and it is glued back with a hinge on the reverse. So, it is space filler quality. But is it a genuine space filler or a fake space filler?
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Posted 12/04/2021   5:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Genuine
Type 1a gurush overprint.
(Type 1 a RRR rating = extremely rare)

Isfila #26 has it as "bright Blue"
Yours may be dark from scan


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Posted 12/04/2021   5:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What does type 1a overprint mean?
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Posted 12/04/2021   9:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The 9pm, noon, and 3am overprint positions
(Postes of Ottomans State) and the currency value, differ.
They are EXTREMELY difficult to differentiate in actual print.

I always look for the curve in the Noon "Devlet-i"
Type 1 has a stronger curve. (above the two adjacent strokes)
Turkish Stamps Specialized Catalogue 1840-1922
Isfila
Istanbul


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Edited by rod222 - 12/04/2021 9:17 pm
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Posted 12/05/2021   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you very much. Always learning something new. Do these types apply only to the 2 Piastres stamp, or do the apply to other values of this issue as well?
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Posted 12/05/2021   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Next is Scott 12, Michel 9

Any opinion on that?


Sc12 Mi9 A

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Posted 12/09/2021   02:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Querying Turkey's Postal tax stamps and "OBLIGATORY"

Scott says "The use of these stamps on letters, parcels, etc. in addition to the regular postage, was obligatory on certain days in each year"

I have Nigelc's answer, being listed in PULKO, but no reference to obligatory.
Any members have further information?

also
I see that under Postal Tax Air Post stamps it says "3k for telegram". Strangely they don't list any 3k stamps

any idea there?

Questions from a colleague, I'll look into it, and maybe ask ONEPS on facebook

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Posted 12/09/2021   5:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I'm afraid I don't remember which obligatory tax stamp we were talking about.
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Posted 12/09/2021   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nigel,
Thanks so much for your interest,
I'll post later, its been a mad house here recently.
We have info from Mr. John Barefoot on this issue
have not read it all.

From an old Catalogue.
(putting to bed the nonsense that old catalogues are of no use)


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Posted 12/10/2021   12:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add billsey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, there were certain holidays during the year where if you mailed something, you had to include the charity stamps. Scott calls them postal tax even though the funds were for charity, since they can't really be considered semi-postals, since there was no postal value to them. One of the catalogs lists the dates they were required for each issue IIRC, but I can't remember right off hand which it was. Pulhan maybe?
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Posted 12/10/2021   12:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you are correct Billsey,
Mr.Barefoot's offering that IIRC.
I need to get that catalogue.

Yes Pulham.

From Mr. Barefoot
Scan 2 : This is the repeal act for obligatory use of Red Crescent stamps. Fortunately date of repeal and date of original issue are
more obvious here. The footnote states the 20 days when the stamps had been obligatory, and the dates and names of the national holiday described. Just in case you need all this detail....
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Posted 12/10/2021   1:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK. No opinion on that. Then, any opinion on these?

Scott 17, Michel 11


Sc17 Mi11 A






Sc17 Mi11 B


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Posted 12/10/2021   4:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kuikka,
please do not be offended, however the reason I stopped,
My two questions were ignored,
so I politely responded in kind.

I requested permission to use your forgery scan,
and you to offer a perf guaging when asking for opinions.
No response.
One then can feel he is being used.

Further, it would be best practice to also show the back of the stamp
IF there was unusual evidence.

Perf varieties, set-offs, creases etc and etc can make hundreds of dollars difference to an articles appraisal.
Notwithstanding identifying rare varieties.

Cheers


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Posted 12/10/2021   4:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Thanks Rod


Quote:
From an old Catalogue.
(putting to bed the nonsense that old catalogues are of no use)


Agreed, I really like old catalogues.

Actually most of my catalogues have become old catalogues!

This is a scan from the McDonald revenues catalogue.
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