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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 03/08/2022   03:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



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Posted 03/08/2022   3:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kuikka to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, Thank you again for your comments. I appreciate them.

The damaged you spotted in top right and bottom right appears to be practically everywhere next to the postmark. You can see it also in the middle in the cresent and in the pearls surrounding the cresent. I would say it is something running from the ink.
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Posted 03/08/2022   3:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree Kuikka.
I chased it up in Birken, but could not find any reference.

My ability in Birken is "challenging" to say the least.
I sometimes meet with this in Monographs.

When one deals with current country catalogues
we begin to expect Year, type , number and then details.
Simple straight forward stuff.
Birken seems to jump all over the place, he started with the 1 piastre
in the 1870 issues.
In time, no doubt I'll get my mind around it.

Isfila was very limited in this issue.

The left hand overprint, the horiz stroke under the "Y" looking character, is rather weird, perhaps an EFO.

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Posted 03/26/2022   09:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

SOLVED

My (Hoax) Souvenir sheet, I purchased at $80
(The same week I saw a gentleman at auction, whom I knew as a fellow of some knowledge, pay circa $120)

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Posted 04/12/2022   10:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Just_fella to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm wondering if this post mark is legible?
I can make out 23 mar 72,

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Posted 04/13/2022   01:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd suggest no.
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Posted 04/24/2022   12:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The latest Middle East Philatelic Bulletin arrived.

A 4 course meal !
Lots of tasty morsels to ruminate on.

Contents
Gems from the Adolf Passer Collection (I); Bosnia to Austria Postage Due 1866?; Constantinople City Post; Complete Sheet "Imprimé"; The
Bombay–Aden Sea Post Office; From Smyrna to Mytilene; #304;stanbul Postmen's
Delivery Cachets 1913–1929; Ottoman Censorship Markings of WWI (III);
Indian Army FPO 33 at Belbeis POW Camp (Egypt); A 1919 Letter from
Baghdad to #304;stanbul via London; Iraq 1926: Essays for Proposed Overland
Mail Stamps; Proofs and Essays of (Trans)Jordan; Random Flaws of
Jordan's 1954/55 Definitives; Aden Meter Marks; World Refugee Year
1959/1960; Aden Registration Labels.

Book Reviews:
Turkey Ottoman Empire Military Censorship (Garton); Ottoman Post Offices and Services in Albania (Giray & Graf).

Reactions, Comments & Queries include:
US Diplomatic Pouch; IRCS of the Greek Occupation of Mytilene; Air Mail France to Aden via Syria 1941?;
1937 Atatürk Block; Book Notice:
"Iridescent Kuwait"; Forgeries Jordan 1942 Definitive Set;
Transjordan/Hejaz 1924 3q & two 'Makkah Arms' covers from Amman via
Haifa–Kantara T.P.O.;
Indian Censor 112 on E.E.F. cover; Scientific
Examination of Stamps; Ottoman Postal Route to Persia; Iraq–Kuwait
Postal War; The Ottoman Postmarks Projects.

The Archive Section contains:
Ottoman Censorship Instructions 1914; The Turkish Post in Lebanon
(Pre-Philatelic Era).
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Posted 06/05/2022   04:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Florence Nightingale.

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Posted 07/03/2022   05:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add theswedish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased this collection at my local stamp club auction as there was not much interest in it. As I know nothing about Turkish stamps (I only collect US classics) I am not sure if this is a run of the mill collection or something worth saving or perhaps even building on. It appears that some stamps have been removed, probably those with some value to them. I tried selling a souvenier sheet from the album through eBay but there were no takers, not even a watcher so I do not have high hopes. All the same, here it is

https://www.theswedishtiger.com/turkey.html
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Posted 07/03/2022   05:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
With respect,
this means basically nothing, without details.
It is just a collection of stamp images.

If you care to advise what you were asking with price,
What did you pay for them?
then we can get some understanding of where you are at.

In my opinion, it is a cracker collection, looks like all mint, hinged.
At the right price, I would have snapped them up.
but, again, price determines desirability.

It is not run of the mill.
We all expect some stamps removed from pages, that's normal.
It is worth saving, but depending on what time frame you would adopt,
determines the depth of the collection.

I collect to 2012 and have 9 stamp Albums, chock a block,
so it can become a vast enterprise.

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Posted 07/03/2022   05:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add theswedish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My apologies, I am new to this. I have added some more images of the collection, I found the earlier stamps were stored in a different envelope, along with some of the missing stamps, so now you should be looking at the complete collection. I paid £100 for the collection, and I am unsure as to if I overpaid or underpaid.
Here is the complete collection, it seems that all periods have quite a few mint never hinged stamps

https://www.theswedishtiger.com/turkey.html
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Posted 07/03/2022   06:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Opinion
You underpaid, you snagged a bargain.

I have only taken a cursory look, and had to assume the lowest grade (hinged)
so MUH adds meat to the value, (If they all are)

I took advantage of the Aussie dollar at par greenback, some 10 years ago
so paid about $250 all up for my more extensive collection.

It takes huge amounts of time to assess Turkey, but a simple glance at your 1909 25pi and 50pi ( if genuine ) have a catalogue of $500

I always assess at 25% of Scott ( I may be out of date these days with inflation)
but still hold to that

I think yours are splendid, but Turkey is a passion of mine, you shall need to access buyers like me, and perhaps place them with a good auctioneer for best access to Turkish collectors.

Good Luck!


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Posted 07/03/2022   08:05 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks a very good lot. In terms of money, the drawback - as, I suppose, you found in securing it - is that Turkey is among the less popular countries amongst collectors in the UK. 10-15% of SG CV would be a rough guess.

What auctioneers have you found in Sussex? I bought a couple of decent lots of cigarette cards from Twomey's, but gave up on them as they don't pack and post items. Good news for locals, though!
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Posted 07/03/2022   08:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add theswedish to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This was at the local stamp club auction. You mean Tooveys Auctions. They get good prices and commission plus tax is 29%. There was no interest in the Turkey lot, it looked clean so I purchased it. It looks like it originated in Turkey as the pencil notations are in Turkish. Lord knows how it got to Eastbourne. I am now stuck with it.
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Posted 07/03/2022   09:11 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, Toovey's! I still recall the abuse I and other drivers received from my chauffeuse as we tried to find it. Had to mollify her with a decent pub lunch.

I no longer have a Turkey collection, but enjoyed assembling it and sorting out the overprints etc - basically just used an old Gibbons Europe catalogue, which did the job. Enjoy!
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