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Posted 01/27/2022   01:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
KGVc' & Rod222,

For decades I've wondered about this 1d Victoria. A fake or dropped in the harbor ?.


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Posted 01/27/2022   06:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finches. Opinion
A machine cancellation, Stamp with SEVERE light damage.
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Posted 01/29/2022   04:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod222,

Either way, almost a quarter of that dreadful 1d stamp has similarities to pink 10/-Roos under UV, the rest becomes invisible - just blank paper .......THANKS for your input.
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Posted 02/01/2022   07:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Victoria Australia.

"No Postage" stamp.
First time I have ever come across this term,
on a query to the Ebayer, I had this eloquent response.
What say you?


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Posted 02/02/2022   11:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tasnaki to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Do they charge extra for the gift wrapping?
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Posted 02/03/2022   12:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add finches to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tasnaki,

I think it's underpriced ! lol
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Posted 02/05/2022   7:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Western Australia Place names
by Emma Wynne

Inkie Pinkie, Pineapple, and Cold and Wet were all places on the Western Australian map 100 years ago when place naming was a matter of imagination and individual choice.

In 1936, a formal committee on place names was created in WA, Damien Hassan, senior archivist at the State Records Office of WA, told Christine Layton on ABC Radio Perth.

"Prior to 1936, people would sometimes just make the names up and they kind of stuck through common use," he said.
"[The committee] then started to advise the Minister for Lands on how to name things."
Near Denmark, on WA's south coast, two places went by the richly descriptive names of Hell's Hole and Cold and Wet.
"Hell's Hole is shown on one of the historical maps we hold in the State Archives collection, but by 1923 people must have thought they didn't want to be associated with a place called Hell's Hole," Mr Hassan said.
"The Denmark Tourist Association decided to rename it, and they had the power at that stage to do that, so they gave it a more salubrious name, which it still goes by today Somerset Hill."
Cold and Wet was on the Denmark railway line and existed up until 1910.
"By then the locals obviously thought it was all getting a bit silly," he said.
"Its name was changed to Martiupp then to Yonga and finally to Bornholm."
Inkie Pinkie and Pineapple fell off the map
Others simply fell off the map as the town population dwindled.
"Out near Wickepin [in the Wheatbelt] there used to be a place called Inkie Pinkie," Mr Hassan said.
"There was an Inkie Pinkie Primary School and there is still an Inkie Pinkie Road in Wickepin but that's one that's fallen off the radar."
A section of the suburb of Maylands was also once known as Pineapple, or the Pineapple Estate.
"It's featured on the historical maps as Pineapple. Why? Because of one of the early settlers there," Mr Hassan said.
"He brought a pineapple across with him and apparently cultivated pineapple, and [the area] was called Pineapple at that time.
"It was kind of just this quirky name that lasted for about 100 years, and then just disappeared."
Woop Woop was a real place
"I think every state or territory probably had or has its own Woop Woop, which is usually just a remote rural place somewhere out the back of beyond," Mr Hassan said.

"There was a Woop Woop in WA, just south-east of Bunbury in the 1920s and it only really existed for three years.
"It was a timber mill and once they had felled enough jarrah I suppose you could say they upped stumps and they moved on.

"But in 2003, they put a sign up and actually the jarrah stumps are still there."

Mr Hassan said Woop Woop stood out in the records for its reputation on the football field and on the dance floor.

"They played a very rough game of footy in Woop Woop apparently," he said.

"There was more fighting than sport and when they had their Saturday night dance in nearby Wilga, the Woop Woop boys would always cause a bit of a stir."

English names popular but unoriginal
Names that referred to the coloniser's homeland were also popular in the early days of the state's settlement.

Safety Bay, south of Perth, was once set to be named Liverpool and there were countless Yorks and Margaret Rivers.

Around the time of Federation, the use of Aboriginal place names became much more popular.

Historic map showing Safety Bay, south of Perth, was once slated to be named Liverpool
In 1894, the Lands Department proposed the name Hannan's Find for the townsite at the place where Paddy Hannan famously struck gold.

But state cabinet overruled the decision, opting for the name Kalgoorlie, which derives from the Aboriginal name for the native silky pear Karlkurla.

Mr Hassan said Paul Hasluck, later a Liberal MP and Governor-General, was a journalist and history tutor when he made a strong case for using Aboriginal names for places.

"He was part of a deputation that met with the lands minister," he said.

"By this stage, there had been a lot of inconsistency and people were just making up these silly names, there was a lot of duplication, there were multiple Margaret Rivers and 15 Red Hills.

"Hasluck stated that Aboriginal place names were a valuable asset they're the oldest known names of places in Australia.

"There were perhaps 100 Yorks, but there's only one Kellerberin."

These days the Geographic Names Committee, formerly the Nomenclature Advisory Committee, first formed in 1936, still serves as an advisory committee to the Minister for Lands.
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Posted 02/17/2022   12:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this stamp today in my Australia mixture box.

First time I have seen this purple revenue cancel on a common postage stamp. The cancel looks like "MONEY" over "KT?" with "251" inside the oval. Any idea what this was used for? I wish I had the whole document that it was used on. Money Order? Money Transfer?

As usual, comments welcome,

Linus

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Posted 02/17/2022   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Linus,
the scan is too poor to determine.
There is a sizeable gap between what you see as MONEY
could be H ONEY etc
The 25 is possibly a date.

Violet ink has me immed. assuming a revenue strike from a company.
I don't recall any violet cancels in this era, but I'll look through my
stamps.

Nope, nothing, Australia had a comprehensive coverage of dedicated tax stamps that avoided using postal issues.
I have a postage strike on a revenue, but not the other way around.

Yours is certainly unusual (for me) presume perhaps was on a receipt or bank cheque etc.

I am ignorant on Aussie Telegraph history, but cursory looks through
what I have, telegraph (C.E.T.O) were Black ink circular date stamps.
That may rule out that.




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Posted 02/17/2022   8:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod

Thanks for trying.

My own research has led me to:

MONEY ORDER OFFICE
KIMBERLEY

Under 10X loupe, with stamp in hand, the third letter is definitely "M" and the largest town in Australia I could find starting with "KIM" is Kimberley, Western Australia. These MOO cancels just have the town name only at the bottom of the oval.

Linus
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Posted 02/17/2022   8:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Examples of MOO cancels on cover:

(images snipped from eBay/stamps, not my covers)



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Posted 02/17/2022   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Linus.
Nice Catch !

Illustrates my oft used mantra "One cannot appraise a diamond from across the street"
Good quality images / scans are essential when asking for ID

Poor scans end up with just speculation, we see it often here on SCF

As it stands, I had NO MOO strikes, in my collection
(My bad for not including the acronym)
So this is all fresh information for me

Thanks for those examples top stuff!

I had a couple of Money Order info, but to be honest,
I did not even think of those.

Your stamp will make a nice Album page.

Here is what I have
The orange KGV is not my stamp



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Posted 02/17/2022   10:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I just happened to search eBay in the stamps category with the words "Australia money" and found those two covers currently for sale. Sometimes you get lucky using the poor man's research tool.

Sorry I could not get a better image. I use the Windows 11 photo editor and it has all kinds of "Retro-Reveal" type gismos, with sliders to change color, contrast, shadows, exposure, saturation, highlights, etc., but nothing worked to separate the purple cancel ink from the green of the stamp ink. It was just messy blobs, and no help.

It is a good day when we learn something new!

Linus
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Posted 02/18/2022   12:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Sometimes you get lucky using the poor man's research tool.

It is my first "go to"

I have a nagging feeling I have (long time ago) seen those MOO
Maybe Mr. Dave Elsmore's pages need visiting

I'll post if I find anything.

Not much success, I have rates for Money Orders March 1930 Almanac.


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