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Pre-1940 Ireland Overprints On Steiner Pages

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Posted 01/14/2020   08:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So we did have it right FJH, we sensed some journalistic bent in your postings.
Don't be shy, feel free to post any of your past work.

We also have the Shanahans members here that have had articles in the Australian Stamp Monthly (Brit. pre stamp letters) (Eunice Shanahan)

As an aside, found a SOAR hiding back of book, with my "unidentifieds" and ephemera, thought I had never had one.
Care to guide us on what to look for? any Catalogue for these? Water Soluble adhesive?
Thanks.

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Posted 01/14/2020   08:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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As I noted then, from 1922 to 1991 only six women had appeared on Irish stamps and four of them had founded religious orders.


Well, it's time to adjust that here on SCF.
Due recognition to women in Irish Stamps, one Ann Flynn (Stamp Designer)
Winner of the 1988 "Prix Olympia"
The best stamp for the Summer Olympic Games of 1988, Seoul.


Sc#713 1988 Designed by Ann.



Prix Olympia Image
AN Post 70 year Anniv Year Book
ISBN 1872228135 (1992)
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Posted 01/14/2020   1:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add FitzjamesHorse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah I have never been a journalist. But I am a blogger in many different arenas.
Writing did play a large part in my working life and in post-working life but I am still type with two fingers. Post-retirement, spelling, syntax and grammar are really terrible.
The SOAR stamp the otter (madra uisce is literally "water dog" was bought in Kinvara, County Galway on the 308th day of 2014. It was the 157th stamp in the roll.
The 60c stamp was from a booklet and the SOAr was added after National Rate postage went from 60cents to 68cents.
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Posted 01/14/2020   7:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you.
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Posted 01/25/2020   12:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
An interesting read here.
Philatelic Ulysses.
(confession: One of the few books, I did not manage to finish as a 21 yo)

Source : Jstor

"the child travels among the lands and people of his postage stamps"
William Herbert.
Snippet.
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Posted 01/25/2020   02:07 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shame on you, Rod! Too easy to get mired in one of the dull, early sections. The 26 September NYRB had an interesting article by Michael Chabon about the successful strategy to enable publication of Ulysses in the US (not linked, as that particular article is subscription only).
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Posted 01/25/2020   05:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps not shame, Geoff, just an indication of personal limitation.
I read all of Dickens whilst in Vietnam, and thought I'd springboard to Joyce.
Alas, a bridge too far.
Not game to give it another try.

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Posted 03/01/2020   05:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

"Design in connection with Postage Stamps and coinage, may be described, I think, as the silent ambassadors on National taste."

William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)
Irish Poet, and Playwright.
Speech March 3rd 1926, to the Seanad Eireann, The Irish Senate, on the coinage bill.
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@Rod222


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1988
Sc#550c Booklet



Are you sure this is the booklet you mention in your post on the second page?

Looking at my Hibernian catalogue, it looks like pane HP 25 from booklet HB 24, issued 9 July 1984. Although it contained 2.26 worth of stamps, it was sold for 2 from 9 July until 10 August 1984.

The 1988 2 booklet depicts the Cork courthouse on its front cover
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Posted 03/07/2020   10:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Are you sure this is the booklet you mention in your post on the second page?


NSK,
I WAS sure, at the time, otherwise I would not have printed it.
However, I am always open to correction, truth is the preferred option.

I can stick a label over my heading with the correction, if you are sure also.
I would trust Hibernian rather than Scott.

Here is the evidence I based my knowledge on
The values coincide, there was no images as proof.

I have just noticed a Scott rider: "stamps from 550c imprinted "booklet stamp" in green on reverse side, sold for 2 pounds.

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Rod,

Interesting.

this is what my 2009 Hibernian shows.


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Posted 03/08/2020   07:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Rod,
Interesting.
this is what my 2009 Hibernian shows.


NSK,
I fear you are reading your catalogue incorrectly.
Your "Courthouse Cork" is HP30 not HP 25 (Mine)

So my page is correct, apart from the year (1988 should read 1984)
A Scott error if Hibernian is correct.

I was hoping you would post pics....Why? because behind Scott, the "descriptors" are usually country specialists, (In this case Ireland) so having an error in Scott is not unknown, but not that common.

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NSK,
I fear you are reading your catalogue incorrectly.
Your "Courthouse Cork" is HP30 not HP 25 (Mine)

So my page is correct, apart from the year (1988 should read 1984)
A Scott error if Hibernian is correct.

I was hoping you would post pics....Why? because behind Scott, the "descriptors" are usually country specialists, (In this case Ireland) so having an error in Scott is not unknown, but not that common.


I do not use Scott, so all I had to go on was the year of issue. It looks like Scott's 550c is Hibernian's HP25 that Hibernian dates 1984 (instead of 1988). The 1988 issue would have been HP 30 (Cork Courthouse) that has another pane from the one you posted. This was my point when I asked whether you were sure it was the correct one. It further looks like 550a is HP26 and 550b is HP27 (both 27 June 1985).

In the "stamps" section, Hibernian mentions D118 (24p) and D120 (28p) as having been issued on 27 June 1985. That would make it improbable that Hibernian confused HP30 and HP25. HP30 has stamps issued after 1984.

Looking at the listing of commemorative stamps show 22p and 26p as a common values until the 30 January 1986 Love stamps. From 20 March 1986 (Flora and Fauna) until 14 November 1989 24p and 28p are common values and 22p and 26p are no longer used. This makes it likely Scott 550c/HP25 was issued before 20 March 1986. From this, I believe Hibernian dates Scott 550c/HP25 correctly.

Edit: Added "The 1988 issue would have been HP 30 (Cork Courthouse) that has another pane from the one you posted." to clarify
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I agree that Rod has given the correct Scott number but I believe the date of 1988 is incorrect.

A little way down the page, Scott gives the issue dates:
Issued: 4p, 6p-7p, 20p, 23p, 30p, 50p,
3/16/83; 1p-3p, 5p, 10p-15p, 7/6/83; #540a,
550d, 552a, 5/3/90; others, 12/15/82.

If I am reading the entry correctly, the stamps in question are all consistent with a pre-1988 issue. This tracks with the Hibernian catalog:




I hope I didn't add to the confusion.
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I agree that Rod has given the correct Scott number but I believe the date of 1988 is incorrect.
I hope I didn't add to the confusion.
Dan


That also is how I understand it.

@danstamps54
Did you manage to find that missing nr. 38?
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