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Great Britain : On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 12/02/2022   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cracker !

The backstamps confuse me 1843 and 71 ?

I just love the names the British come up with, history flows through them all.

High and Low Bishopside is a civil parish in Nidderdale in the Harrogate district, in the county of North Yorkshire, England. It includes the town of Pateley Bridge and the villages of Glasshouses and Wilsill, the southern part of Wath and the hamlets of Blazefield, and Fellbeck.
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SENT 26th July 1841
Date stamp impression book, Post Office Archives
Vol 5 page 16
Sent to Ripon


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Linus,
cracking cover! Thank you.
May I have permission to send to the Database?

Although, of late, (sadly) I am not getting responses from Alan
even with postmarks he is asking for.

Your duplex is not listed.

Pateley Bridge...oldest sweet shop in England
wiki
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Bedrock Of The Community
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Posted 12/02/2022   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Linus,
are you able to read the red postmark under Pateley Bridge?
Maybe a US receival?
Curious

Nice "wing margin" postage stamp.

and, if any members can ID the backstamps, I am currently researching.
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United States
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Posted 12/02/2022   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Linus to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rod, you always have permission to use my images, you need not ask again.


Quote:
are you able to read the red postmark under Pateley Bridge?


With my 10x magnifier, with cover in hand, I can read: RE TR o

Is this perhaps part of a British train cancel? That would be my best guess.

Linus
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Posted 12/02/2022   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Cheers
Corrected my gaffe of 1843 Sheesh !
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Australia
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Posted 12/02/2022   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
First Letter in the world, to be franked and delivered. (debatable of course)

Here, one could cut around the stamp, so it would fit on an album page,
because it is a common stamp.

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Posted 12/05/2022   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add NSK to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Agree. Those envelopes take up alot of space you could use to mount more stamps.

It is the earliest known used example that was delivered. The Penny Black was put on sale on 1 May 1840. There may be lurking an example used on 1 May 1840 in a dealer's box.

Note it was not the first franking, but the first franking with a stamp. Franking an item was common practice and an appropriate handstamp indicating postage had been paid by the sender was applied.

The Penny Black was not valid to prepay postage until 6 May 1840. This item should have been treated as unpaid and charged 2d on receipt.
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Posted 12/14/2022   9:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A general call out.
Any members know Allan S Oliver webmaster of the Philatelic database?
Been in touch etc?

I have so many postmarks missing from the database, but he is not answering emails.
Just hope he is well and OK

I just love that database and spend hours there,
It will be a tragedy if it remains stagnant.

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Posted 12/14/2022   10:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
EMBOSSED SET OFF.
Can any members explain how this occurred please? Common?

GB Stationery
Cat : Brightmore #16
Envelopes Post Office 1893 0.5d Vermilion Embossed, Florettes.

Huggin / Baker type 1b
(Still unable to read this Catalogue, a most confusing tome, or find type 1b )

OGMORE VALE (Unlisted)

Ogmore Vale (Welsh: Cwm Ogwr) is a village (and electoral ward) in the county borough of Bridgend, Wales on the River Ogmore. The village's main source of income came from coal mining. Up until the year 1865, the Ogmore valley was a quiet, isolated, rural hill farming community of less than ten farms and a few cottages. Today, along with Nantymoel and Price Town it makes up the community of Ogmore Valley.



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Posted 12/15/2022   02:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 12/15/2022   02:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Chasing a difficult one
Any members aware of a Postmark design sheet by Stitt-Dibden?
I'd dearly like to get my hands on a blank copy
anyone?

Posted by an SCF member some time ago

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Posted 12/15/2022   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rod,

I'd not seen this before but I guess it's a privately-made table based on the listing and illustrations in a 43-page booklet, Newspaper Branch Cancellations by William G. Stitt Dibden, published in the UK in 1971 (or from a 1957 booklet by the same author).

This is based on a quick check in the online RPSL catalogue.

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Nigel
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Australia
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Posted 12/15/2022   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Nigel,
great to hear from you.. Thanks

Quote:
but I guess it's a privately-made table based on the listing and illustrations


...and a very good one, I'd say.

So I am going to make my own, I have Stitt Dibden, but it's a grungy, well used monograph, some images are good, others (mimeographed) are poor

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Posted 12/19/2022   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stationery Queen Victoria
Newspaper Wrappers PO and STO
Date of Introduction 1st October 1870, to 1901
Brown, Green and Blue-Green
Letterpress by De la Rue

Paper Buff until 1878, then White.

Bib: Brightmore, Fernau and Stitt Dibden


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Posted 12/21/2022   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seeking ID for PERFIN A&H / CSL please?
Possibly Brightmore #13 1881 stamp type 4C

Oops Make that A&N / CSL

Solved
Army and Navy / Cooperative Society Ltd



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Posted 12/21/2022   10:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In Focus
GB Stationery, 1d Pink Embossed
The first Stationery after the Mulready Envelope.

Interesting first colour...Pink.





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