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Posted 06/17/2017   08:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add thestampguy1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I've been looking around on eBay, just wondering if any of these stamps are counterfeits?
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Posted 06/17/2017   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are many private reprints of many new valuable Chinese stamps that are on sale online such as the year of the monkey 1980 red stamp.
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Posted 06/17/2017   10:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thestampguy1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was referring to the Chinese copying old US stamps, like they do the coins.
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Posted 06/17/2017   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add codehappy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm aware of some less than ethical folks repairing, misrepresenting, and sometimes outright forging US classics, but none of the ones I know of are Chinese. Americans, Canadians, and UKians: yes. (Some, you might find, are even ASDA members!)
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Posted 06/17/2017   8:47 pm  Show Profile Check rlsny's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add rlsny to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
For the most part people are not trying to create phony old stamps since doing that well requires specific types of paper and ink that are just not going to happen. What you do see is cheap or damaged old stamps being modified to make them look like more valuable stamps. Take a look at lot 15 at this auction that just concluded. https://stampauctionnetwork.com/v/v7001.cfm#4 Most of these stamps look like unused valuable old stamps but are actually stamps where someone lightened the cancellation to make them look more valuable. Frankly the selling price for this lot makes no sense. Someone either didn't look carefully or they might try to pass them off on someone as authentic. They were sold at auction with all the certificates stating they are modified and/or faulty.
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Posted 06/17/2017   8:56 pm  Show Profile Check Philatarium's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
According to this article from Linn's from earlier this year, contemporary stamps are being forged in China and sold here as postage. I understand that some of the postage lots are being sold on eBay and Amazon in bulk lots.

http://www.linns.com/news/us-stamps...-stamps.html
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Posted 06/18/2017   9:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I was referring to the Chinese copying old US stamps, like they do the coins.

Haven't heard any rumors yet. Printing truly engraved designs from scratch is possible but not likely. Correct ink and paper would still be major problems. Collector-experts, dealer-experts and expert groups would detect fakes rather quickly. Plus fakes of valuable modern lithographed stamps are easier to do.

I would be more wary about repairs, adding margins or piecing together a stamp from two or more faulty ones. I've examined covers in the past that were extensively repaired, with or without a "before" photo on hand. Some were really amazing works, even under magnification, blacklight, fluid, though there was typically something "off" enough that the item became suspicious. That something could be just looking too good to be true for a 100 to 150-year-old cover.



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Posted 04/20/2018   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add steevh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Chinese are too busy faking their own stamps to bother with the US stuff.
And its China thats the booming stamps market right now, not the US.
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Posted 04/20/2018   11:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add modernstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would assume it is only a matter of time before more fakes from China show up.
Just about every collectibles market gets copied by China.
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Posted 04/20/2018   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've seen a few NSW stamps (postage and revenue) advertised as replicas and also some fantasy issues. I'm sure the production of these isn't limited to just China.
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Posted Yesterday   02:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dry Tech to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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The Chinese are too busy faking their own stamps to bother with the US stuff.


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Posted Yesterday   09:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"The Chinese" don't counterfeit stamps. Fraudsters do, and they could come from any country you'd care to name. If a counterfeit stamp from the USA showed up, would you make a post about "The Americans" forging stamps?
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