Help Needed With Towns Of Precancels

Hello,

I show some precancels and other cancellations I have - I suppose they are not all precancels? Can we say that all cancels that are not vertical or horizontal are not precancels?

and: the 1st and 2nd row I can't figure out at all which towns they are?

If someone has time for an answer - thank you.

Pretty sure the box cancels aren't pre-cancels. Probably parcel?

Well, 12 is Boston, Massachusetts.

I would guess #1 is Bellfonte PA 704, #6 interesting, would need a better scan - the others not precancels. Sometimes diagonals are precancels, usually not. If the name does not fit on the stamp then almost always not.

Precancels http://www.precancels.com/

Thank you for your answers.

Chasa: I made a better image of this stamp, is this better? And about the other stamps: I thought that stamp 2 and stamp 6 could perhaps be a precancel? Is it not because you just know it or is there another hint like the lines that are not sharp enough?

Most of the stamps you have are not precancels. The precancel devices were designed with the thought that the entire printing could fit on the stamp, usually a definitive such as the Washington-Franklins, 4th Bureau, Prexies or Liberty series stamps.

Even if the device was not centered when impressed, you end up with a split precancel, making it possible to determine the city/state. This is an example of a split precancel:







Sometimes, the impression from the device was either lightly applied or underinked, resulting in an impression such as you have in #1. The general rule is that if it cannot be read without a magnifying glass, it's not collectible.

The only other precancel on the page is #6 and I cannot tell the name of the city from the image.

All the others are box cancels with the city and state in a box. #7 is a straightline city cancel.

Hope this helps.

Stamperix, please put a better scan of the only two precancels on the page, no's 1 & 6. You put up the wrong one, no 7!

Peter

Sorry everybody, couldn't read my own picture and numbers :). Here the two precancels in better images. I can't figure out both of them. But they seem interesting, first one perhaps double precancel, and second one reading up.

17 cent. Sherrill, NY?

Number 7 is not a precancel. It is a straight line cancel from somewhere in the state of Wisconsin and a city name ending with a letter E.
2-5, 8-11 and 12 are also not precancels.

Thank you both - yes, begoniabo, the Sherrill is good. I didn't see the "e" and "i" correctly, now I do. that is Sherrill.

Chasa, is the image good enough for you, as you wanted to have a closer look? Is the precancel interesting because of the direction or other things?

If I may, it is probably interesting because of the 17 cent denomination. That was an unusual amount, probably not often seen.

Peter

17¢ Wilson stamp

https://arago.si.edu/category_2033934.html

Thank you both. I am not a longterm precancel collector - but I think there is no source for which stamps are common or not for precancels, right? In the PSS catalogs there are only information about the overprints, not about the stamps? Or is there both?

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just looked at ebay and well, there seem to exist other 17c with precancels :) - in both directions.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Precancel-L...AOSwmFNZZ4RS

So I would guess precancel on 17c Wilson is more a bit common.

Stamperix - right, in general. There are about 2 million different US precancel denominations. Current prices can be found for bureau print and DLE denominations but others are just a guess. Those 17c Wilson's were much used in the precancel era.