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Posted 01/19/2022   12:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ANY CATALOGUE RECOMMENDATIONS ?

I spent all day yesterday on early Hungary, and got nowhere.
I feel Scott and Gibbons fail miserably

Looking for Info 1874 to 1916 (Inclusive)
Must be bi lingual

I have the "Monography of Hungarian Stamps: Part 1 general,
which is fantastic but fails to list issues in a sequenced catalogue order.

Thanks for any ideas

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Posted 01/19/2022   12:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
ANY CATALOGUE RECOMMENDATIONS?

Well, there is the forbidden site...
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Posted 01/19/2022   12:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Some online links, maybe they have other links:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/...m_of_Hungary
http://www.romaniastamps.com/sc/franceocc.htm
https://www.stampweb.hu/index.php?a...lyeg_fooldal - inactive but has some archived info
And of course, Stamp Collecting World and Big Blue.
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Rod,try these links below, early Hungary are a major headache for me too and have for the time put them aside

http://www.thestampcollector.net/gu...71_1899.html
https://www.stamp-collecting-world....y_1871d.html
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Posted 01/19/2022   02:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Guys
The Romanian I have used for years, great link!

Moose helped a bit, but still lacking.
I have made offers on some catalogues, I'll let you know if successful.

1 major hurdle overcome, I think the engraved can be identified by
the 4 triangles in the corners, have minute vertical lines.
I don't think Typo or Litho can reproduce that.

Gibbons offers "Engraved" in the first set then all the rest "recess"
Typical Gibbons
We know the print process, but why complicate, a simple "Eng" would have sufficed.
Also I have issues with the burelage, I do not see dots but lines.
No mention of sideways wmks

I am determined to crack these, I have what looks like 300 or so Type A2 A3 and A4 but it looks like a lot of work.

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I have decided to call these out as forgeries
My two Newspaper P1 and P2 stamps.

strange brownish Paper
Typical forgers bodgy part postmarks missing any details
Pearls are horrid
Overall poor impressions

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Posted 01/19/2022   03:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes managed to get 2 early catalogues
1949 and 1956
Let's see if they can expand the info.
Welcome to your new home


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Posted 01/19/2022   03:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hungary ~Semi Postals
Sold at 2 filler over face value, proceeds to Flood victims.

1913 Steiner Page 37.

1914 Steiner Page 38.
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Posted 01/19/2022   07:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can these catalogues be of use, or is it too much time to wait?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/255330254812
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324967799701
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Hi Rob,
cheers, I was aware of the Brainard book back in 2017
Just a bit heavy ($30) for me at present.
But may become important when I address my Romanian.

Time is never a problem for me awaiting mail.

The second link, is where I purchased my other two catalogues
I did not take this one as it is not bilingual.

Kudos to the two vendors, I often come across eBay vendors who market catalogues, and only show the cover.
I immediately dismiss.
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Just a bit heavy ($30) for me at present.

The seller also enabled you to make an offer, so - "make him an offer he can't resist".
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Posted 01/19/2022   11:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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"make him an offer he can't resist".


I did that on the other two I bought
But a catalogue in Hungarian, I could not put to good use, I'm afaid.


Oops! I see what you are referring to, the Brainard tome, sorry!

I could not find the following Souvenir Sheet in Scott
so am assuming..

BUDAPEST '71 STAMP EXHIBITION

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Posted 01/19/2022   12:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add classic_paper to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I could not find the following Souvenir Sheet in Scott so am assuming..

Almost without exception (such as GB), the UPU requires a country's name to be printed on the stamp, so without "Hungary," "Magyar Posta," or something similar, these aren't valid for post.
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Posted 01/19/2022   12:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's not just the name, these "stamps" have FV in korona, which wasn't valid in 1971, so it is indeed just a souvenir of the exhibition.
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Posted 01/19/2022   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks NSK.

Hungary Indicia
First time I have noted the "R" fount, change in a country's Registered Etiquettes.
(Unless Certified Mail differs? perhaps)

Registered v Recommande


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