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Completed my early Hungary. One heart stopping moment, I mis-identified a 20f coloured numeral, (Perf 11˝) with a "Black Numeral" (CV $600) Common sense prevailed. Watermarks Crown in Oval, and Crown in circle, remain an enigma for me. General Opinion: Watermarks are fairly easy to Identify (apart from Oval/circle) often, where a major image is not available, (Wks 132 v 135) then the segment of the interlocking circles can be used. (Small segment 135, larger segment 132) Perforation 15, can easily be identified by eye, leaves Perf 12x11˝ and 11˝ Perf 11˝ is where the big money lies. 1888 Steiner Page 3.  1898 Steiner Page 4.  |
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Edited by rod222 - 01/29/2022 3:31 pm |
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Rod In my WW block collection, I have this block... Scott #18 Perf 11.5 Wmk. 132 Kr in Oval I can see the watermark by shining a bright light behind the stamps. On single stamps, like you are looking at, you would be seeing one watermark position from my block. Imagine for a minute, tearing this block apart, mixing up the 4 stamps and then trying to watermark each one. Large watermarks are easier understood by looking at multiples. 1970s Flashback! This watermark looks like the cat's-eye pattern on my oscilloscope when I used to do read-write head alignments on disk pack drives as a Burroughs field engineer. Hope this helps, Linus   |
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Hi Linus, very adroit treatment there, well done you! Yes, can be a bit tricky, but Sc#132 Watermark I find easy ID. As mentioned before .. This Wmk can be identified in part by the size of the ellipse segment, created by the intersecting circles /ovals. They are fatter in the Wmk132.I have 5 stamps, of varying issues, that defy ID Whether it be personal mucilage, preventing paper removal or bad husbandry. Your block of 4 Watermark, is 1 of 4 types, ScottWmk132 READING DOWN INVERTEDThese depended on how they were rolled after the Dandy Roll, and thence drying, and subsequently how the paper was orientated during printing.  I have images of Wmk 135 now in Circles and Elipses Still cannot ID by eye ! Identification may be had by the length of the Crown Straps (Smaller in the Wmk135 Circle) Linus, I have a bunch of Pmkd Blocks of 4 1970ish issues would you be interested? free of course. |
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Edited by rod222 - 01/31/2022 01:20 am |
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Also, a subtle difference in the Scott Wmk 136 In 1908 the Crown contours are rounded, and the rood is shown at a flatter angle. In 1909 The Dandy roll glyphs are again changed to angled contours The rood at about 45 degrees. Hard to pick up!  |
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Thanks, Rod, for the additional info on my block. I need to make a more detailed label for it with "WMK 132 READING DOWN INVERTED." Your knowledge amazes me!
I just bought another 150 WW blocks from my guy in Texas for 20 cents a block. This batch included a Hong Kong Scott #403 block of six with a 22 SCV of $174.00! I have lots of blocks to process. I do not want to feel like I owe you, so I will pass on your offer, but thank you for all of your posts with great stamps and info.
Linus
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Unknown Postal Stationery 1896 Looks like a return letter card? 5 Filler. Orange. Cannot read Postmark. (Ends with KENET I believe)  |
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Unknown Postal Stationery 1896 Looks like a return letter card? 5 Filler. Orange.
Rod, This is a cut square from a closed postcard. Issued from July 1, 1886 - September 30, 1900. 2 values issued: 3 and 5 Krajczár. No watermark. Two paper types: Yellowish and Grayish. Issued in Hungarian and Hungarian-Croatian versions. The bilingual versions look to catalog slightly more than the Hungarian only ones; used more than unused. Dale |
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Dale, wonderful ID, thank you very much, included in my album with accreditation. Not met with "closed card" before, seems apt.  |
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Edited by rod222 - 02/04/2022 5:07 pm |
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Hungary PERFINS Hungary POSTMARKSTypo with PAKOZD |
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Edited by rod222 - 02/04/2022 7:20 pm |
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Hi Rod. Postmark on your cut-out : most likely Kecskemét  |
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Edited by vayolene - 02/04/2022 8:48 pm |
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Hi Vayolene, Kecszemét it is !  Hungary has some of the most appealing Pmks in all Philately. I cannot read them I cannot pronounce them. But they are generally clear and oft socked on the nose. Kecszemét Registration label. PORTO overprint (Identified by your good self) (Pmk there is from a Rail Freight Card, similar to Czech types) and one weird circle and line Pmk    |
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Edited by rod222 - 02/04/2022 9:05 pm |
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