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1950 5 Year Plan
Steiner Page 22.

1951
Steiner Page 003.
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Completed my early Hungary.
One heart stopping moment, I mis-identified a 20f coloured numeral, (Perf 11˝) with a "Black Numeral" (CV $600)
Common sense prevailed.

Watermarks Crown in Oval, and Crown in circle, remain an enigma for me.

General Opinion:
Watermarks are fairly easy to Identify (apart from Oval/circle)
often, where a major image is not available, (Wks 132 v 135)
then the segment of the interlocking circles can be used.
(Small segment 135, larger segment 132)

Perforation 15, can easily be identified by eye,
leaves Perf 12x11˝ and 11˝
Perf 11˝ is where the big money lies.

1888 Steiner Page 3.

1898 Steiner Page 4.
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Rod

In my WW block collection, I have this block...

Scott #18
Perf 11.5
Wmk. 132 Kr in Oval

I can see the watermark by shining a bright light behind the stamps. On single stamps, like you are looking at, you would be seeing one watermark position from my block. Imagine for a minute, tearing this block apart, mixing up the 4 stamps and then trying to watermark each one. Large watermarks are easier understood by looking at multiples.

1970s Flashback! This watermark looks like the cat's-eye pattern on my oscilloscope when I used to do read-write head alignments on disk pack drives as a Burroughs field engineer.

Hope this helps,

Linus





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Hi Linus,
very adroit treatment there, well done you!
Yes, can be a bit tricky, but Sc#132 Watermark I find easy ID.
As mentioned before ..This Wmk can be identified in part by the size of the ellipse segment, created by the intersecting circles /ovals. They are fatter in the Wmk132.

I have 5 stamps, of varying issues, that defy ID
Whether it be personal mucilage, preventing paper removal
or bad husbandry.

Your block of 4 Watermark, is 1 of 4 types, ScottWmk132 READING DOWN INVERTED

These depended on how they were rolled after the Dandy Roll, and thence drying, and subsequently how the paper was orientated during printing.



I have images of Wmk 135 now in Circles and Elipses
Still cannot ID by eye !
Identification may be had by the length of the Crown Straps
(Smaller in the Wmk135 Circle)

Linus,
I have a bunch of Pmkd Blocks of 4 1970ish issues
would you be interested? free of course.
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Also, a subtle difference in the Scott Wmk 136

In 1908 the Crown contours are rounded, and the rood is shown at a flatter angle.
In 1909 The Dandy roll glyphs are again changed to angled contours
The rood at about 45 degrees.

Hard to pick up!

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Thanks, Rod, for the additional info on my block. I need to make a more detailed label for it with "WMK 132 READING DOWN INVERTED." Your knowledge amazes me!

I just bought another 150 WW blocks from my guy in Texas for 20 cents a block. This batch included a Hong Kong Scott #403 block of six with a 22 SCV of $174.00! I have lots of blocks to process. I do not want to feel like I owe you, so I will pass on your offer, but thank you for all of your posts with great stamps and info.

Linus

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1962 Air Post : Steiner Page 122.
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Unknown Postal Stationery
1896
Looks like a return letter card?
5 Filler. Orange.
Cannot read Postmark. (Ends with KENET I believe)
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HUNGARY / ROMANIA
ZILAH

1945





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Unknown Postal Stationery
1896
Looks like a return letter card?
5 Filler. Orange.


Rod,

This is a cut square from a closed postcard.

Issued from July 1, 1886 - September 30, 1900.
2 values issued: 3 and 5 Krajczár.
No watermark.
Two paper types: Yellowish and Grayish.
Issued in Hungarian and Hungarian-Croatian versions.

The bilingual versions look to catalog slightly more than the Hungarian only ones; used more than unused.

Dale
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Dale,
wonderful ID, thank you very much, included in my album
with accreditation.
Not met with "closed card" before, seems apt.

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Hungary PERFINS

Hungary POSTMARKS
Typo with PAKOZD
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Hi Rod.
Postmark on your cut-out : most likely Kecskemét
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Hi Vayolene,
Kecszemét it is !

Hungary has some of the most appealing Pmks in all Philately.
I cannot read them
I cannot pronounce them.
But they are generally clear and oft socked on the nose.

Kecszemét Registration label.
PORTO overprint (Identified by your good self)
(Pmk there is from a Rail Freight Card, similar to Czech types)

and one weird circle and line Pmk


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