Stamp Community Family of Web Sites
Stamp Community Forum
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

Welcome Guest! Need help? Got a question? Inherit some stamps?
Our stamp forum is completely free! Register Now!

Looking for info. on a possible ERROR stamp. Please.  
 

 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
New Member

United States
2 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SuperPoacher74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I received a large stamp collection several years ago through family.
Because im an avid coin collector I just got around to research & inventorying what I have.
I came across this particular stamp & after much searching I came up empty??
I will post pictures but please be patient I am new to using this forum & unsure of how to download photos.





*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
Send note to Staff

Pillar Of The Community
United States
1021 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add James Drummond to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi

What you have is an official seal. These were used to repair mail that was damaged in handling, or to reseal mail that was opened by mistake.

The seals were also used in the dead letter office.

The value of this particular seal is minimal, as many millions were produced, over many decades.

The additional line of vertical perforations however makes this seal a little unusual.

So instead of it being a ten cent item you may be able to sell it for a dollar or two; the additional perforations can be found fairly easily on these seals.

Jim
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1395 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   11:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome! Yes, the extra vertical row of perforations down the center is definitely an error. Value is fairly modest due to the official seals being less collected than traditional postage stamps. As you can see, the staff moved your post to the "Back of the Book" section - referring to the back portion of the catalog which lists the more specialty and esoteric items like these seals.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1151 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   2:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi superpoacher74, attractive Post Office Department Official Sealed.

Sometimes you can find these on damaged letters.

Your scan is marked OX 39, but this is incorrect! There 17 possibilities for your example, along with 2 watermarks, of the 17 possibilities, there are more subset possible. OX 39 is a Hyphen Hole, yours is perforated, impossible to determine which of the 17 possibilities your example is. Some of the 17 possibilities are not valued in the Scott Catalog!

I suggest you find a stamp collector who can identity your stamp, and determine if it is watermarked or not, and what watermark it is.

While I respect the two previous posters, I would think it well work your effort to get it properly identified. You never know, it could be worth more than "minimal" or "vale is fairly modest", I think the posters did not try to really identify your example.

Hope my information was of some help to you!

Stampmaster
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1395 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   4:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, yes, I just took the OX39 as correct and went forward without a cross-check. In fact the listings for the Official Seals have been greatly expanded and renumbered several times in the past few decades, so the number may have been correct when it was written there and is now outdated by the more detailed lists. Time to start over in figuring out the current catalog number.

Stampmaster, I must be missing something in my catalog, which Scott #s of this design are watermarked?
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1151 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   5:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi John Becker, you may send me an off line request if you require help, perhaps we should stay on topic for Superpoacher74.

I've scanned both examples, one with hyphen hole, and the other one for perforations in order to help you, and the other posters if they also do not know the differences.

If I can be of any other help let me know.


Stampmaster





Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1395 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   5:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampmaster, I understand perforations perfectly - that was not the question at all. You had stated:

Quote:
... along with 2 watermarks


and I replied:

Quote:
which Scott #s of this design are watermarked?

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1151 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all I'm resonding to John Beckers questions about watermarks.

John do you know how to watermark? Its easy to do.

The answer to your question is, first off lets look at Scott illustration number which is POS6, hope you understand the importance of the scott illustration number, very important when identifying some stamps and in this case this illustration number.

John do you have a Scott catalog available, find your way to the "Post Office Seals" section, then find the Scott Illustrations number POS6!

Anyway here is the information you request, oh by the way glad you were able to see my scans of hyphen hole and round hole perforation. Do you know how to determine the hyphen hole gauge, is very simple!

John you should of sent me an off line request.

OX21f Eagle and star
OX21j certificate bond

OX22c eagle and star

OX23a eagle and star

OX25a eagle and star

Do you know how to watermark?

Now lets stay on topic!

Stampmaster
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Valued Member
United States
50 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampsInWV3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To me it may be worth $4, that is what makes collecting stamps fun
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
1395 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stampmaster's post does not dignify a reply and I will cease to respond to ANY and ALL of his posts from now and urge all others to do so.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Pillar Of The Community
Learn More...
United States
785 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think we should let the moderators be the topic police. Sometimes I find the expanded discussion of a topic interesting. Topics can be like conversations and stray occasionally into a related subject. In this instance, the original poster didn't limit his question to perforations, and I didn't find John Becker's question about watermarks to be so off the mark, especially when it was in response to a specific comment about watermarks on these stamps.
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
New Member
United States
2 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SuperPoacher74 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you all for your quick responses I appreciate your information and input. I will have it looked at as soon as I can get out to the next Coin and Stamp show. Thanks again
Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
Moderator
Learn More...
4930 Posts
Posted 09/13/2017   8:40 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
stampmaster
Your snarky replies have no place here. I already privately communicated with you once before but the drama has continued to follow you. No more warnings.
Don

Edit: The watermark issue with this stamp is that not all stamps in the pane showed the watermark. So if a stamp does not have one, you aren't any closer to a ID.

Send note to Staff  Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 
To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Promoting the integrity of internet philatelic dealers. Please join us so buyers can buy with confidence.United States Postal Service, Now on eBay!
New Forum TopicsRecently Active Forum Topics
  Finland Q15 Doubled Denomination
  unable to find anything about thses
  GB 1847 6d embossed-CV 18,000 ($23,700) Filler-Value ?.
  US Prexie 842 with small holes
  3c washington grill identity
  Wilding Graphite Lines
  Newfoundand R36a - roller mark
  U.S. 1857 3c Washington - S.C. #26 or #26A?
  Is this a US A157 (d. perf. 10 at top or bottom) scott#554
  I need help identifying this stamp
  Here's one from everyone's favorite eBay seller...
  3 cent Washington with cover - valuable?
  Philatelic Items Free of US Customs Duty
  Interesting doubling on text of Scott # RE147 wine stamp
  Would You Breakup This Block?
  U.S. 1860s 15c Lincoln - Grill Identification - Odd left 11 perforation
  Great Americans Stamps Without gums?
  Japan Classics opinions
  U.S. 3c Washington (No Grill) Perf 12 S.C. #207 - No frame line under 3 - Added value?
  Stamp Identification Wanted
  U.S. ~1870 3c Washington (No grill) Perf 12 - Identification please
  U.S. S.C. #599a Perf 10 - Please verify identification
  Grandmother's stamp accumulation
  Nice uncut example of R189 with interesting handstamp cancel
  Separating sheets of stamps

  Wilding Graphite Lines
  GB 1847 6d embossed-CV 18,000 ($23,700) Filler-Value ?.
  Here's one from everyone's favorite eBay seller...
  U.S. 1857 3c Washington - S.C. #26 or #26A?
  New, Free, US Stamp Album Pages
  I need help identifying this stamp
  What's a reasonable price for stamps
  The Stamps of Turkey : On Steiner Pages.
  New South Wales Perfin OS-NSW
  Great Britain : On Steiner pages.
  Philatelic Items Free of US Customs Duty
  There is a fungus among us.
  unable to find anything about thses
  Finland Q15 Doubled Denomination
  US Prexie 842 with small holes
  Canada Post celebrates 65th anniversary of queen's coronation April 20
  Arches, Columns & Gates on Stamps
  3c washington grill identity
  The 100,000 stamp club
  Stamps with WORDS and/or NUMBERS as the main design
  Japan Classics opinions
  Federal Duck Stamps
  Let's see your most recently purchased stamps
  What do you do with kiloware leftovers?
  Herd of Cattle? Bulls, Cows and Calves on Stamps

Go to Top of Page
Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Stamp Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2018 Stamp Community Family - All rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Stamp Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Privacy Policy / Terms of Use    Advertise Here
Stamp Community Forum © 2005 - 2018 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.65 seconds to lick this stamp. Powered By: Snitz Forums 2000 Version 3.4.05