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The Most Terrible Forgery I Have Seen Today.

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Posted 11/14/2020   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Terrible crude forgery !
Momen does not care one bit.
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Posted 11/14/2020   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add RK1468 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorry for the poor quality of the prior image. Here are the two Spanish stamps in question. Both are on thin paper, and the 1 real paper is greenish.

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Posted 11/14/2020   6:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The seis cuartos is a forgery.No slight curve in the top hair line. Also the stamp does not have the correct proportions;oval and letter sizes.The small neck lines are irregular in shape.
The 1 real could be ok,but the pic is still not clear enough to be certain.There is something about the space between the upper lip and the bottom of the nose that does not look right....
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Edited by perf12 - 11/14/2020 6:55 pm
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Posted 11/15/2020   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rich60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Found this beauty in a collection I am breaking down. Looked at it several times but yesterday it struck me funny and sure enough its a fake.
I have come across many of these fakes in the last few years and now I collect them as an adjunct to my colonies collection.

Paper is wrong,perfs are horrible, color is wrong ergo cancel is fake.
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Posted 11/15/2020   8:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Love it! The faker has moved Moschi from German East Africa to the Marianas Islands.


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Posted 11/16/2020   09:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rich60 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob
Must have something to do with global warming.

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Posted 12/28/2020   3:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 2RealesAzul to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The Spanish 1 Real blue stamp (Scott 53) is genuine. There are no Sperati forgeries of this stamp and all the forgeries I've seen are pretty crude. The danger with this stamp is that a pen cancel might have been removed to make it look unused. Doesn't look like that is the case from the image but you should still check it with a good UV light.
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Posted 12/28/2020   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just a few random images. I think everyone has at least some of these. I have informed auctions at least 5 or 6 times this year that a certain Lot is fake and that it can easily be proven. They don't want to hear it and don't respond. Thank goodness for all of the websites that show the fakes in detail.The eyes are all wrong in the Grenada one...



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Edited by Casey Magoo - 12/29/2020 10:24 am
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Posted 12/28/2020   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just from your pics,one can tell a mile away they are forgeries.
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Posted 12/29/2020   11:01 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Getting back to Canal Zone. I have these two with a faint overprint. I would hope they are real but I don't know myself... The overprint is bolder in real life but looks more faded in the pic.
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Edited by Casey Magoo - 12/29/2020 11:03 am
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Posted 12/29/2020   12:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Most likely the first overprinted stamps in carmine.Right off the bat they look genuine.There were many printings of these.It would be best to measure the overprints.Check out
the link below with all the explications if you haven't already.

http://www.canalzonestudygroup.com/...de-Schay.pdf
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Posted 12/29/2020   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Casey Magoo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks very much for the info. I paid next to nothing for these at a general collectibles auction. I wish I had the 2c to complete the group but I don't.
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Posted 12/29/2020   5:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add MrEd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Yet another totally educational thread on this forum, thanks to all
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Posted 12/31/2020   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a forgery of the type used by old-time packet makers to add variety/bulk to the mixture. In his Focus on Forgeries book, Varro Tyler says, "They far outnumber the genuine copies in most collections and stocks."

This forgery of the 1c value (Sc #95) of the 1896 Arias series is described by Tyler as type II. It is "printed on very white paper and is perf 12 1/2." Genuine stamps are perf 11 1/2. Note that there are no shading lines on the face, and the background shading lines are irregular and broken. The lettering on the "UPU and "1896" inscriptions are thin rather than thick, as they are on the genuine stamps.

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Posted 01/26/2021   6:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sellers starting bid is $40.00__writes; Beautiful example,nice catalog value...
1894 24c Dowager,Terrible forgry today!

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