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Posted 04/28/2020   06:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add angore to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
My first real album was a Harris Liberty with stamps proudly mounted using Crystal Mounts. My purchases were through a local dealer who sold stamps at the Harris catalog price.
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Regarding the suggestions made about my earlier post of the brown stains caused by the Crystal Mount glue and the tapes used by my dad to close the sides of the mount, I have tried various chemicals. For used stamps, a soaking in very hot water removes the translucence of the brown stain and creates a shiny residue on the top of the stain that can easily be scrapped off with a fingernail. In some cases the brown stain almost disappears.

For mint stamps, that is obviously not a solution unless you don't mind making them unused with no gum. So, I have tried various different chemicals in a sealed jar overnight. Lighter fluid has no effect. The same with Goo Gone, paint thinner and mineral spirits. Acetone has the biggest effect. I have had some stamps where the brown stain has all but disappeared to the point where I cannot even tell which side it was on. However, I have also had some stamps where the acetone has removed most of the colour of the stamp. So unless it is a relatively expensive stamp or one that is missing out of my own collection, the majority are going into the trash along with the Crystal Mounts that ended up as the source of the damage.
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Posted 08/03/2020   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was going through the bottom shelf of my supply cabinet and realized I had a few small cardboard boxes I didn't recognize.

Opened them up to discover I still had virgin unopened Crystal Mount packages; 30+ packages of the stupid things. They were part of a large collection I traded for many years ago. I had already thrown away scads of these things a few years ago when I found them. Maybe they reproduce?

I started pulling them out to throw away when I encountered several packages of Westvaco PermaGuard mounts. They look to be basically identical to Crystal Mounts.

Different company address but look equally horrible.

First I have heard of them.

Any horror stories with these? I think WestVaco also made glassines, manila stock cards, and other stamp supplies.

But hey, they are archival!


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Edited by StateRevs - 08/03/2020 10:05 pm
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Posted 08/04/2020   01:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamps101 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have a ton of different mounts and never seen those ones. I wonder how they hold up.

If you still have your packages or crystal mounts and don't want them, I'd gladly take them. I use them for common stamps issues when I build pages with stamps I'm looking for errors on. Easier to just keep a copy of the common issues all on a page so I know which issues I'm paying attention to. Let me know if you have em still!
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Posted 08/04/2020   09:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StateRevs to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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If you still have your packages or crystal mounts and don't want them, I'd gladly take them


Do you really want Crystal Mounts?
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Posted 08/04/2020   09:38 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Crystal Mounts are horrible things. Destructive, horrible things. The Pod People of philately.
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Posted 08/04/2020   10:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add bookbndrbob to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In some cases there are other uses for things that don't do their jobs.

In this case, "starting over"/recycling might be the best use.
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Posted 08/04/2020   10:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Extinction now.
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Posted 08/04/2020   10:25 am  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Crystal mounts and modern hinges are the scourge of the hobby; collections that use these are typically worth a fraction of collections which use quality hinges and/or mounts. Soaking modern hinges off (assuming the stamp has been thinned by someone yanking one off) or cutting stamps from Crystal mounts (assuming that the stamps aren't already yellowed or ruined) sucks a huge amount of time; often more than the stamp is worth. Stamp Lives Matter.
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Posted 08/04/2020   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There is, of course, no corroborative evidence that "collections that use [modern hinges] are typically worth a fraction of collections which use quality hinges" beyond your opinion. As I've noted before, I've yet to see an auction lot make reference to the vintage hinges used within a collection. As of today, there are no vintage hinges - whether by Gibbons, Rapkin or others - available on ebayuk. One could have a long wait to put away ones stamps.
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Posted 08/04/2020   11:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revcollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I can remember 40 or 50 years ago when auction references to old time pre-1900 era hinges were made when applicable; sometimes even pre-1920 era.
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Posted 08/04/2020   12:10 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Agreed. My opinion is being influenced by my recent purchases of 2 large collections of 25+ albums each which I paid less than $200. Decades of collecting for two hobbyists boiled down to a few hundred dollars. $10 per worldwide album of modern hinge/Crystal mount stamps is about the right market value.

Folks who purchase large world-wide collections only to find the majority of stamps ruined or the need to invest 100+ extra hours to make the stamps usable typically only make that mistake once.

But you are correct, there are sellers who do not describe the mounting scheme and there are people who will foolishly buy collections without understanding how it is mounted.
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Posted 08/04/2020   12:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add gmot to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Seriously, "Stamp Lives Matter"? Hardly and in poor taste to boot.
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Posted 08/04/2020   12:53 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The context was that bad hinges and Crystal mounts are killing stamps, how is that 'poor taste'?
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Staterevs, yes if you have them I can definitely make use of them. I save my Showgard mounts for my actual collection but found use for the less desirable ones rather than tossing the ones I had as well. If you're able to email me on here I can discuss further to cover your shipping cost if it's not too much work. If it's a hassle, all good! Just thought I'd throw it out there in case you had quite a few.
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