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New South Wales Numeral Cancels

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Posted 01/22/2023   09:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you!
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Posted 01/23/2023   06:18 am  Show Profile Check fairdinkumstamps's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add fairdinkumstamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another interesting one - opinions welcomed:
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Posted 01/23/2023   10:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 3Dadeo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Angle on second digit suggests a 4.

1471 Para Meadow/Balgownie ?
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Posted 01/23/2023   3:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a 1471 for mine.
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Posted 01/23/2023   6:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
187 or 1871
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Edited by rod222 - 01/23/2023 6:14 pm
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Posted 01/23/2023   8:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The digits are too tall to be an 1871.

From Freeman's book:

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Edited by Bobby De La Rue - 01/23/2023 10:58 pm
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Posted 01/24/2023   5:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bobby,
I have great respect for your opinion,
however the "too tall" argument fails to convince me.
(Damaged) Numerals look appropriate size to me.

I do agree not the same Pmk as 1871, the "Oval" shape does not correspond.
The oval is "pointy" in FDS's examples.
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Posted 01/25/2023   2:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't believe the numerals are damaged Rod, just very poorly inked.

Even Freeman's example isn't brilliant, but clearly legible enough.
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I must add, the "4" is extraordinary, large body, short leg

A quantum leap from the smudged Pmk of FDS.
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Short legged 4s (new terminology right there!) aren't uncommon, among both the ray types and the second barred types.
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:32 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply



I know it is not a NSW numeral but I couldn't find an example of this three-ringed oval with a thick outside line in J S White.

Can I have assistance in identifying this cancel please?
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Short legged 4s (new terminology right there!) aren't uncommon, among both the ray types and the second barred types.


Illuminating knowledge.
Had me pondering, so much "in depth" knowledge like this
from seasoned collectors, must get lost on the passing of these specialists collectors.
Why I am a huge fan of the private "monographs" papers, often produced.
For example Mogens Juhl for Western Australia

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Posted 01/25/2023   5:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Can I have assistance in identifying this cancel please?


Not just a damaged / worn "NSW" in 3 oval rings?



Then I found this...

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Edited by rod222 - 01/25/2023 5:43 pm
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Bobby De La Rue to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Why I am a huge fan of the private "monographs" papers, often produced.


I'm almost ready to release the second edition of my DLR monograph
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Posted 01/25/2023   5:50 pm  Show Profile Check 64idgaf's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 64idgaf to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Rod, just over-inked.
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