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Posted 01/11/2018   5:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add valdpete to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
The overprint is in 2 lines. It is said there exist 2 types - the difference being the distance between the lines.

According to my research it is not correct and I believe both lines were overprinted separtely, hence there can be many different distances.

Can anybody confirm or contradict ?
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Posted 02/01/2018   06:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valdpete to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Posted 02/01/2018   5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kelleher auctions: 2 distinct types on this cover..Forgeries
should not be excluded ? Only few were overprinted.
https://stampauctionnetwork.com/v/v7018.cfm


In this set, looks like 3 types:

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Posted 02/01/2018   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valdpete to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would say 2 types of letters, not just 2 distances of lines.
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Posted 02/01/2018   6:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Oh alright.Now we have different spacing and larger lettering also..
plus non overprinted stamps with overprinted stamps..getting complicated!!
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Posted 02/01/2018   8:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I was sweating for a minute, but I saw "1948" and could breathe a sigh of relief...too new.

Still neat to see how this develops. Because stamps.
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Posted 02/01/2018   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
valdpete and perf12,

Thanks for showing these. I've not heard about them before.

I'd be very interested to know why they were issued.

I'm intrigued by this comment in the Kelleher Auction link:

...reportedly only 132 of the 320 overprinted stamps were used on mail...

Now that is a very small issue indeed!

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Posted 02/02/2018   01:48 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add erilaz to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm amused by the "Tohuwabohu" in the overprint. That's a Hebrew phrase meaning "chaos"; it's translated as "without form, and void" in the King James Version of Genesis 1:2. For some reason, Tohuwabohu has also made its way into the German language, where it likewise means "chaos". It's one of my favorite words in German, another being the synonymous Wirrwarr.

I'm strangely attracted to words that contain reduplicating, rhyming, and alliterating elements, especially when they refer to things like chaos and confusion, so I also love the Japanese words mechamecha 'mess, ruin', mechakucha, muchakucha 'incoherence, confusion', and chinpunkanpun 'gibberish, nonsense'.
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Posted 02/02/2018   05:47 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valdpete to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Tohuwabohu is in the ASFE 780 Stamps Issuing Entities Updated List on position 260, which means Interim stamps. You can click it there to open an article about them.
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Posted 02/02/2018   06:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add nigelc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi valdpete, were these issued under any official authority or were they just for someone's amusement?

They remind me of the recent British stamps with private overprints from Northern Ireland with political slogans.
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Hi nigelc - I understand Tohuwabohu opts. as political slogan against the British mandate rule. Despite of this consignments passed through British mandate post. No doubt they are genuine.
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Posted 02/02/2018   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So these stamps can be placed in the interim period 1948, link:
http://israelstamps.com/an-introduc...iod-of-1948/
cover bearing the Emergency POST issue stamps...

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Background info on these stamps;
http://journal.israelstamps.com/PDF/87305.pdf
These must be the different settings in the sheets:


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Edited by perf12 - 02/02/2018 09:52 am
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Posted 02/04/2018   3:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add valdpete to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
perf12 - thanks a lot, so to sum up and close this thread - 86 examined stamps already proved there exist 2 types of letters and 2 distances of lines, the other pictures show there are more possible distances of lines, but probably only 2 types of letters.
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