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The Other Precancels: Silent Precancels

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Posted 09/13/2009   2:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great selection of perfins, 1775mac!

These are precancels that just happen to be used by companies that used perfins. These are not listed in any precancel catalog, but may be listed
in a perfins catalog.

Mike
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Posted 09/13/2009   2:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
As I mentioned, djd has shown another genre all together.
It may be call a local "commemorative" or "souvenir" precancel they principally
are used in relation to local Philatelic events. These almost always privately applied with tacit or no approval from the general post office.
These are not well documented, but often command a premium at auctions.

Mike
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Posted 09/13/2009   8:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
mac,
that is a very nice selection of precanceled perfins. I noticed a few that would look nice in my Route 66, Lincoln Highway, and Abraham Lincoln collections.
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Posted 09/13/2009   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamperdude which might fit your rte 66 ?? I have perfins similar to those Mac showed....
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Posted 09/13/2009   8:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add philb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i said the wrong thing...i do not have perfins..i have precancels !!
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Posted 09/14/2009   12:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add warrehouse to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 09/14/2009   02:15 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add khj to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I figured out how to use my scanner again (or maybe just a fluke this time?).

Here's my silent Bureau precancel imperforate error pair.

k
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Edited by khj - 09/14/2009 02:20 am
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Posted 09/14/2009   07:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1775mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mike that was a great help on the site. There actually is a collectors niche for these with information. Heads up Phil.

U.S. Perfinned Precancels
Randall, John M.; Cummings, William. 1991. Catalog of Perfinned Precancels of the United States. El Cerrito, CA: The Perfins Club. [231p.]

Josh- I already have most of these going to Phil but I am sure he can get you the ones you may need. Sorry about that.
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Posted 09/14/2009   11:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperdude to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Mac,
No problem if they were already spoken for. Heck, I figured you were keeping them in your collection.

Phil,
I think it was the South Bend IN & San Franciso CA for my next project: Lincoln Highway and one from Lincoln NE for my Abe collection that really caught my eye. I did see a few Chicago IL & Saint Louis MO for my Route 66 collection (which I have quite a few-nonperfin). Other than that it was hard to tell if some of the others are on my ever growing lists.

khj,
very nice set of dualing pianos.
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Posted 12/13/2017   8:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I see on the The Precancel Stamp Society website that they have a hard copy silent precancels catalog. Anyone know if they have any plans to release it as a pdf and/or database?
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Posted 01/24/2018   3:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add EdziuMM to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Another silent precancel pair.
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Posted 02/02/2018   1:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sleepy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So...there's a series such as the Transportation Series in which a few are precanelled and the rest simply normal stamps. How do most collectors handle this ? Are the precancelled grouped separately in one's collection?
I realize that each collector makes his own decision; I'm simply asking how most do it ?
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Posted 02/02/2018   1:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In the Transportation Series all of the precancels are available as "for collectors" unprecancelled stamps. Then there are the later ones, that are "service inscribed" as the USPS calls them. As you state one can collect these either way. I collect the series specialized and my tagged stamps and the precancels are all mixed in.

Peter
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Posted 02/02/2018   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
dkabq8: as far as I know the Dave Smith Silent Precancels book will not be made into a computer readable pdf or database.
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Posted 02/02/2018   10:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@chasa: Bummer, as I really like the PSS software -- both for keeping inventory and generating album pages. It has been worth every penny. I guess I will have to purchase the hard copy sometime in the near future.
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