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1c 1851 Plate 4 Stamps

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Posted 02/05/2018   08:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Dudley, can you give us a good scan of your mystery stamp?


Sinclair, alas I am not equipped to do so.

Caper: sorry about that...
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Posted 02/05/2018   09:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Njs900 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If you have a newish smartphone, a photo might help.
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Posted 02/18/2018   09:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stallzer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was someone here the successful winner yesterday of the 92R4 1a?
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Posted 04/22/2018   2:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an interesting stamp.
It appears to be Scott #22 Type IIIa, Relief "C", plate 4.
I narrowed down the choices and searched the rest one at a time.
My best choice on this one is 68L4.
I did not find any copies to compare it to though.

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Edited by jaxom100 - 04/23/2018 08:57 am
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Posted 04/23/2018   12:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Passing this on -

A little birdie just told me that your 68L4 plating is correct.

He was also not fond of the vertical perforations at right.
(They do merit some critical study).
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Posted 04/23/2018   3:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks txstamp. I was not real sure as the plating marks are hard to see. Does your birdie think it was reperfed at right? The stamp does have some extra paper on the back that I will remove. Hopefully it is not hiding any tears. I do not see any from the front.
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Posted 04/23/2018   5:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
His exact comment:

"Bizarre fake perfs at right"

I've had a busy day - no time to study it, but I agree that they merit some serious looking-at.
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Posted 04/24/2018   08:18 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I really appreciate your confirmation on the last one.
What about this one?
Plate 4, Relief E.
Possible position 87L4.
There are marks in the upper right that are hard to tell from a a postmark.




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Posted 04/24/2018   09:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have to agree: 87L4.
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Posted 04/24/2018   4:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also passing this on -

Concur that the 87L4 is plated correctly.
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Posted 04/24/2018   5:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for confirming these two for me. Greatly appreciated.
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Posted 05/20/2018   01:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is an interesting strip that I spotted on Siegel's. It has a nice pedigree but it is plated wrong. Seems they were suspicious of the Type Neinken gave it (IIIa, IIIa, III) because it did not match what 47-49L4. It is actually 67-69L4. Very nice strip.

How many would remove it from the partial envelope?
I think I would remove it.


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Posted 05/21/2018   09:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dudley to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I might leave it on paper just to provide some support to the delicate perfs, but otherwise I see no reason not to soak it.
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Posted 05/21/2018   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'd have a careful look at it first.

On occasion, things are left on paper to hide a fault.

On other occasions, as dudley states, that might afford
some better protection for a delicate item. Not clear that
applies here or not without examining it in person.

I would most likely soak it.
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Posted 05/21/2018   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did you guys look at the Siegel site? I cropped that photo. That paper corner is more complete than I show. It has a date-stamp as well.

Here is the image.

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Edited by jaxom100 - 05/21/2018 7:15 pm
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