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1c 1851 Plate 4 Stamps

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Posted 04/21/2023   5:26 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Discussion of 49L4 and Type Ic here:

http://goscf.com/t/72775&whichpage=178#775492
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Posted 04/21/2023   6:28 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Tx,
I have a 49L4, with a cert from Doporto:



Winston will remember this one. We both bid on it on eBay, and he won it, but didn't see that it mentioned a flaw, and offered it to me. I dipped it several times, and I think he did also, and the flaw that was described isn't there at all. When I bid, I thought it was a Ty. III, and completely missed the lower left plume, and of course Winston did see it.

Ray
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Posted 04/21/2023   7:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Ray,
Very nice to get another stamp for a datapoint; thanks.

This position does have a weak bottom line.
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Posted 04/22/2023   2:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
ray.mac, can I put that stamp in the database?
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Posted 04/23/2023   7:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is that 49L4 that we discussed in another thread (put where it belongs).

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Posted 04/24/2023   6:24 pm  Show Profile Check ray.mac's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add ray.mac to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jaxom, no problem.
Do you want me to sent you a higher res image?
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Posted 04/27/2023   2:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ray, If you would please.
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Posted 05/10/2023   09:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is a stamp that someone asked me to identify.
I came up with Scott #22, position 13L4.
What do you guys think?
It was purchased as a Scott #20.


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Edited by jaxom100 - 05/10/2023 09:39 am
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Posted 05/10/2023   10:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The dot above orn A and to the left of orn B, clearly agree.
The line across the lower left ball also appears correct.

That big dot to the left of orn B is probably a clincher.

I think that you have it correct.
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Posted 05/10/2023   10:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jaxom100 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Txstamp.
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Posted 06/09/2023   9:49 pm  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I posted this strip a couple of weeks ago before I had a high res scan of it. At the time, I believe I was pointed to plate 4, C reliefs, which would be either the 2nd or 6th row of plate 4 left or right.

I am still unable to identify the exact plating, even though there are 5 adjacent subjects. I would really appreciate any experts weighing in on the matter.
Thank You - Jim
(I have a much larger, unreduced image I could upload if an administrator could assist?)

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Edited by jamesg - 06/09/2023 9:51 pm
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Posted 06/09/2023   10:20 pm  Show Profile Check 51studebaker's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
JamesG
Email sent.
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Posted 06/10/2023   05:57 am  Show Profile Check jamesg's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add jamesg to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to Don for his assistance!

Below is a sharper, higher quality image of the strip of five discussed above. I hope this will make a plate/position identification easier. Thank You - Jim

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Edited by jamesg - 06/10/2023 06:00 am
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Posted 06/12/2023   10:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The plating of the above strip is 23-27R4 - as plated by MSF (copying this from the original thread).

I'm quite confident that it is plated correctly, as MSF knows what he is doing, but I took a quick look ...

There is a nice 'dot' which is consistent across multiple copies of 23R4 to the right of ornament M. The bottom line break of 26R4 matches well. Overall it looks correct. Certain blurs match, like the one left of 23R4. General ornament completeness mostly matches - as well as it can for plate 4 -- where the designs wore very quickly.

It is worth nothing that I do not see the plate scratch in ornament N on 27R4 which connects to 28R4. It is either inconsistent or very weak here. Other copies do show it. That is not a problem for plate 4, as it is very common for some markings to show on some copies and not on others.
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